Hiya, Rumpole! It's been tough going today with all the starts and stops!


2:37 p.m. ET: Martinez is walking Samuels through the answers Arias gave to a PTSD test that are consistent with her story that two intruders killed Alexander.

2:36 p.m. ET: Samuels said he did not bring an original questions to a PTSD test he gave Arias to court. He gave Martinez a copy of the questions.

2:31 p.m. ET: Martinez asked if Arias told him if Arias was in or around the closet when she shot Alexander. Samuels said yes that is where Alexander was shot.

2:27 p.m. ET: Samuels verified the recording was his voice and he did say those words. The attorneys are at a sidebar with the judge.

2:26 p.m. ET: Martinez is playing a recording of an interview he conducted with Samuels. On the recording, Samuels said he remembers Arias telling him Alexander grabbed her sweater, and then she went to get gun and pointed it at him.

Samuels says on the recording: “He’s coming at her, he grabbed her sweater or something like that she said. And she remembered the gun, she took the gun and pointed it at him and then she said…”

“Where was the gun?” asks Martinez on the recording.

“I think it was on the shelf in the closet,” said Samuels.

I see Jodi is writing a lot of things for Wilmott to perhaps ask Samuels?

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Martinez insists he was speculating.

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Samuels says she was reacting to trauma nonetheless. Martinez asked if he was speculating. Yes, then he says it was clinical judgment.

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Samuels says that the particular trauma is not as important as that she was reacting to some trauma.

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Martinez goes over Arias' answers to the PTSD test she took after she told the intruder-killer story.

Mr. Samuel's is NOT quick on his feet...a real DISADVANTAGE to Jodi. He admitted to 'speculating'...he probably should have said that was the wrong word and actually didn't apply. Instead, he admitted he speculated and hence, got caught TELLING THE TRUTH! See what happens when people tell the truth! It leads to the discovery of truth!

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Dr Psyche the "cut-rate" psychologist is still not very impressive

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Remote thanks from me too. Having to TCB over here... as in "Elvis" taking care of business!!
LOL

Samuels having a hissy fit... he looks even LESS competent when he stamps his feet

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2:54 p.m. ET: Martinez and Samuels are arguing over what Samuels said about how he scored a PTSD test he gave Arias. He asked Samuels if he has a problem with his memory. Samuels said he does not have a problem with his memory.

2:52 p.m. ET: Samuels is correcting Martinez about how he scored a test he gave Arias to diagnosis her with PTSD.


2:48 p.m. ET: The attorneys are now at a sidebar with the judge.

2:47 p.m. ET: Martinez is now asking Samuels another test he administered to Arias, and how it is scored.

2:46 p.m. ET: Arias wrote that the following parts of her life have been affected by the trauma she experienced.


2:43 p.m. ET: Martinez is pointing out numerous instances in Arias answers that consistent with her story she told police that two intruders killed Alexander. Samuels said the specific trauma is not important, but she was responding to some trauma.

“I would like to make it clear to you that she is responding to some trauma. Nowhere on the test, except when it asks to describe the trauma, is the specific trauma that important. In order words, it’s not critical to the outcome of the test. In her thinking, in her responsiveness, she could have been responding to the trauma that occurred on that date. Granted, she told me one story and we found out later that there was another story. But both would have been perceived as traumas. So it’s possible, and I’m not saying that it is for sure, it’s possible that the trauma she’s referring to was actually due to the killing. But, because of the story she constructed, she had to attribute it to this made up story,” said Samuels.

“You don’t know that, do you?” asked Martinez.

“No I don’t. I’m speculating,” said Samuels.

“Right, made it up right now. Speculating,” said Martinez.

“No, clinical judgment, sir,” said Samuels as he raised his voice.

Samuels' answers are a lot like Jodi's.


Martinez: Sir, I ask the questions, do you understand that?



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Samuels: "I studied these tests for years. You're misinterpreting them, sir."

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Samuels: "You're misinterpreting the results. You have no knowledge in this area."

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"I'm not asking you if (fill in the blank)"

LUNCH RECESS.

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Martinez refuses to say what he is reading from as he questions Samuels. Willmott objects and Stephens sends jury to lunch.

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The Arias jurors look impatient, though I'm not sure with whom.

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Martinez tries to force Samuels into yes/no questions. "Do you have problems with your memory?"

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Samuels: "I studied these tests for years. You're misinterpreting them, sir."

Noon recess until 1:30 Arizona Time, 4:30pm EST.

3:03 p.m. ET: The live blog will pick back up when testimony resumes at 4:30 p.m. ET.

2:57 p.m. ET: Martinez read an article to Samuels that says the MCMI test he gave Arias and its results should not be used in a court case. Samuels asked Martinez what he was reading from, but Martinez said he asks the questions and ignored him. Samuels asked again what Martinez was reading, and Martinez ignored him. Willmott objected saying Martinez should disclose the source of the article to Samuels. The court is no in recess for lunch.

“Isn’t it true that this instrument, the one that you gave her, the MCMI, does not allow for the client’s score to be interpreted according to a criteria of normality that may be an important factor to assess in a court case?” asked Martinez.

“Well, that’s correct by itself, that’s true,” said Samuels.

“It’s saying basically that this is not something that is set up to be used in a court case,” said Martinez.

“No, that’s not what it says,” responded Samuels.

“Well it does say that this ‘instrument does not allow for a client or defendant’s score to be interpreted according to a criteria of normality that may be an important factor to assess in a court case.’ Yes or no?” asked Martinez.

“That’s what it says. And what are you reading from sir?” asked Samuels.

“Sir, I ask the questions. Do you understand that?” said Martinez.

“Yes,” said Samuels.

They are back

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Ramerez making point... test makes comparison to psychiatric patients.. and not comparisons to general population.

Test scores are standardised against scores for psychiatric patients

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Comparing scores of defendant to those of someone who is "sick" for lack of a better term....would it be better to conduct test for her against someone in General Population, asks Martinez?


4:45 p.m. ET: Martinez wants to know how someone suffering from dissociative amnesia can respond immediately after an attack or trauma, because they wouldn't remember where things like a gun or knife is located if their mind is not recording memories.

4:42 p.m. ET: Samuels now explaining how the brain will not record memories during acute trauma.

4:39 p.m. ET: Martinez is asking whether either PTSD test Samuels gave Arias reflect whether Arias was telling the truth. Samuels said they test the patients internal struggle and he believes they are valid.

4:37 p.m. ET: Samuels is back on the stand, and Martinez is asking the MCMI test results are compared to people with mental illnesses instead of the general population. Martinez wants to know if a more valid approach would be to compare her tests results to the general population.

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Samuels says that regardless of the made-up story Arias told, the test still measures her state of traumatization and therefore is valid.

Samuels is praying - 2 photos above? He'd better!

Juan is amazing. Ripping into EXPERTS in THEIR field. Amazing guy!

Defense is trying to keep him off balance... OBJECTION!!!

She is experiencing the trauma of her LIE "story"????

I believe Jodi suffered Trauma KNOWING that she didn't "cut it" with Travis. He didn't want to spend his life with her! OOOOOOO TRAUMA!!!!!

Remote just read yours. INCREDIBLE isn't he and his "facts"? OMG.