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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:23 pm 
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And what's truly ironic is that she accuses me of argument by repetition.

It's as if she mentally blocks the fact that the very first hurdle the State must overcome will be to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense.


She finally admitted that she does not care, she believes GZ guilty and that is all their is to it.


And there you have it. That's exactly what has been going on with many of the Trayvonites from the beginning, which is why they really don't care whether their arguments and theories make any sense.

Now ... what would make a person decide GZ is guilty, without waiting for the evidence to unfold, and then ultimately IN SPITE of the evidence? I'll tell you what. Exactly the same thing the Trayvonites accuse everyone else of ... "profiling," bigotry and stereotyping. They took one look at George Zimmerman, didn't like what they saw, and decided he was guilty. The end. They're hypocrites of the worst kind.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:21 pm 
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Yes, the are projecting their thoughts and feelings, on others to excuse what they feel.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:46 pm 
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(Fixed both posts - Mal)

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I disagree with the Theory of Dueling DD's, and have always considered it to be a "rabbit hole" that has distracted the discussion about Witness 8. I believe there is one, and only one DD, and that all sorts of "Red Herrings" have been tossed out to keep the media and public away from her, and away from the truth about how and when she first communicated with Tracy, Sybrina, and Ben Crump.

Was she at the wake or funeral? Who knows? I won't believe she was there (or NOT there) until I see PROOF of either alternative. A picture of her at the service, a signature on a registry, or solid documentation that she was NOT there because her whereabouts can be documented at a different location during the times of either the wake AND the funeral. Where does the controversy about her attendance spring from? It comes from the deceivers, Sybrina, Crump, and DD said she was NOT there, but a FAMILY member said she WAS there. BOTH are from the same source as far as I see, and it is a MANUFACTURED CONTROVERSY designed to distract and confuse!

The distraction is intended to draw attention away from something they fear WILL be discovered, which means it is something that CAN be discovered. Quite simply, somewhere along the line they made a MISTAKE that will allow someone to uncover the fact that DD was already in communication with the family PRIOR to 3/18. And I believe the answer lies in her PHONE RECORDS. And I am NOT talking about her CELL, I am talking about her HOME phone. I believe that either DD called Sybrina, Tracy, or Crump from her HOME phone, or one of them accidentally called HER at the home number by mistake, and they fear that her home phone records will reveal that call. This explains TWO things: Why Crump would NOT call her home number when he had audio problems on 3/19, and WHY they have resisted providing her address to the defense. Once that home phone number is revealed, the records will show that SOMEONE called that number, or was called FROM that number LONG BEFORE 3/18. Maybe even before 3/2.


Is it rabbit hole or quest for the truth? Time will determine that. Outside of one vs two DDs, I agree with pretty much everything you said in your reply. Matt said she was 16 on the air, so what does that mean? He KNEW her age and knows it today? We KNOW the DD2 of today is 19. Doesn't that make him and ABC liable civility for promoting a material lie in a murder trial? It seems that the ice is pretty thin there. It seems that they are damned no matter what they do now. Did they lie and help promote a lie about a material fact in a murder investigation by saying an 18 year old is 16? OR did they interview a 16 year and once it was revealed that she was 18 do they have an obligation to say that they may have interviewed a different DD? Personally, I think they are in a tough spot and need to come clean before more damage is done. At least they should set the record straight about the confusion surrounding her age.

On a side note, you and dark (lovemygirl) are doing a commendable job at Huff and Post. I follow you guys, but they just wear me out. It's hard to discuss facts with people who adamantly believe that the lies they heard and then tell is the truth. If there ever is a bronze star to give, you guys deserve one!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:06 pm 
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Thank you, Rumpole! Glad to be here and (hopefully) participate in a meaningful way...

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Welcome to RT Analyst :51


Nice to see approximately where members are

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Here is what I have never been able to reconcile, and why I think almost everything else that follows is moot: if I had any intention whatsoever of killing someone, why in the heck would I call the police (NEN) before doing so? And forget ‘reverse psychology’, ‘plausible deniability’ – however it may be described – I just can’t imagine that scenario.

(I assume this is the proper venue for this post)

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:59 pm 
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Post is in the right place

And your point is well made.. I made the same point early on in the case.

If GZ was a rabid racist determined to chase down TM like a dog and shoot him... GZ would not have first called the cops. Enough time had elapsed such that GZ would know if the cops were minutes, perhaps seconds, away.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:10 am 
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Enough time had elapsed such that GZ would know if the cops were minutes, perhaps seconds, away.


Your point on the pending arrival of the police further diminishes the 'rabid racist' theory. They could have arrived before the fight / shooting - and nearly did.

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There you go again.. using logic. LOL


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MOM has filed a Notice of Reciprocal Discovery of items they intend to use at trial, link below
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0113/de ... covery.pdf


Some interesting things on the list. There must be something on those videos for him to be using them at trial.


Hi, flgirl543! I thought those video tapes were supposed to be blank. Maybe the defense got ones that weren't blank, I don't know. If they are not blank they will be interesting I'll bet.


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Hi flgirl543, I heard that they have the tapes except the Sam's Club one but should be receiving them shortly.


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What's funny about the Trayvon supporters is they try too hard it shouldn't be that hard if it's the truth. We rely on the evidence and we have an easy time disproving everything they say. They have to make videos and find things in videos that aren't there. They like to try and say George beat himself up in the little bit of time before the police showed up. It's actually funny to watch sometimes.

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Welcome!!!!


Thanks!

And...thank you to Rumpole for inviting us to his forum!

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And...thank you to Rumpole for inviting us to his forum!




"Some day, and that day may never come... I may call upon you to do a service for me.
But er... until that day, accept this, as a gift."


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I do have quite a few notes of people who emailed and asked me to activate registration.

I never saw them register, so either they have not managed to do so while reg is open, or else I have deleted them along with the spam.

I apologise to anybody who I inadvertently deleted


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:52 HELLO RT AND RUMPOLE!


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Diwata Man!!!

:91 Welcome to RT! :91

It's an honour to have your name on our humble membership list... you bring so much

(Got any e-cakes on you?) :12


Edit rumpole:
Nice avatar.. and just the right size

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Hey guys!! I knocked on a different door, y'all must have been out at the time. So, persistence is my middle name, so found another door. Nice to see new and familiar faces from CTH. I promise to mind my manners.

Thanks again rumpole for inviting me in.


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Just a random statement here. I'm now checking RT, Diwataman's blog, the CTH and Stately McDaniel Manor trying to keep abreast of GZ developments. Of the group, McDaniel's place is one I probably won't continue to visit, because he's got 3 or 4 Trayvonistas over there, one in particular, who suck up tons of bandwidth with the same ridiculous, tired, disproven nonsense. I so enjoy having places to visit where I don't have to wade through that crap. :45


I am glad people visit other places..... I do too.

Please bring any good info back here.. a sample and a link to the site for worthwhile stuff.

And..... done sparingly.... it can be good to quote the silliness so we can all have a good laugh....


I visit other places too. I like McDaniel's place and his analysis. The Traybots don't bother me. Good to read different opinions. It adds to the debate. At least they are not pretending to be experts in anything, producing crazy videos or begging Mike to cut off opposing viewpoints.
Love it here. Thanks Rumps for carrying on.
I doubt that I will be viewing CTH much now that the Zimmerman Thread is gone. CTH should have "stuck with their winning thread".


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