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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:46 am 
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I'm back online now after I can't tell you how long. We're having problems with too many IP addresses and devices so my husband and younger son are trying to fix everything tonight. They actually had to go off the Net to do this but I was having trouble long before they even started. They still aren't real sure what the cause of the original problem is (modem keeps turning off).

Aren't you glad you know all that now? Just let me know whenever you need to know absolutely everything that's going on all day at my house. haha

So....maybe AzCentral will work in the morning for me!!! Yeah!

And, mama, I do suppose that head-chopper-offer will do for now. Is there any room for it on the sidebar to the left? We really do need to get rid of folks like Jodi. I believe in swift justice. Bring her to me. :TF

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:47 am 
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70scarrestoguy wrote:
Another day of the defense villainizing the victim.
How did the redirect have any relevance to their self defense claim?
All I got from today's redirect is that Jodi & Travis enjoyed sexual role playing.
Jodi tears pages from her journal because she's into cosmic energy or witch craft or anticipated investigators finding her journal.
The way the defense is dragging this out I'm going to come up a week short on my estimated date of conviction.

BTW Remote: I'm hoping I'll be 3/3 in a couple of weeks & then 4/4 when O'Mara walks out of the DeeDee deposition with a sour look upon his face.
You must have an opinion as to the Jodi Arias conviction poll, take a chance & put it into writing.

Just saw your post, 70s! I didn't know there was a poll.....going to look now.

I've been going back and forth about the Arias conviction (I'm still scarred by the Casey Anthony trial).

I agree about the lack of relevance harping on and describing all the sex Jodi and Travis had. Just because people may not do what they did, doesn't make it wrong - it's what they liked. It is what happens in relationships and I feel that it is such a violation of privacy, especially as it is my opinion that it does NOT further Jodi's case in ANY way! Turns out she liked the various types of sex, had pleasure with the sex and found it fun! WHERE is her reason to be afraid of Travis? Still don't see how Travis was "mean!" WHERE is the "abuse?" There is absolutely NOTHING that justifies her slaughter of him.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:49 am 
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rtmember - isn't it frustrating with all the computer problems? And it takes so LONNNNG to fix. Hope you'll be up and running tomorrow. I liked your idea of the wireless headphones. I should have been better prepared for this riveting trial, but who knew? I came late to the party.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:57 am 
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I think the defense is trying to show that she suffers from a sexual variation of "battered woman syndrome". (Instead of him physically battering her, he was sexually and/or emotionally "battering" her.

Per Wikipedia:

This is a reference to any person who, because of constant and severe domestic violence usually involving physical abuse by a partner, may become depressed and/or unable to take any independent action that would allow him or her to escape the abuse. The condition explains why abused people may not seek assistance from others, fight their abuser, or leave the abusive situation. Sufferers may have low self-esteem, and are often led to believe that the abuse is their fault. Such persons may refuse to press charges against their abuser, or refuse all offers of help, perhaps even becoming aggressive or abusive to others who attempt to offer assistance.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:57 am 
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OH give me a break.
Arias friend reveals his shocking theory! (Ignorance Theory 2)
Arias friend suggests Travis Alexander may have been killed by Mormons in ‘blood atonement’ ritual
Friend claims Jodi Arias is lying to protect her family
Watch Nancy Grace covering the Jodi Arias trial from Arizona all week at 8 p.m. and 10 p.m. ET


http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/04/a ... ideoplayer


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:20 am 
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Joni wrote:
Rump she abused cats. A friend asked her to take care of their cat while they were away for 2 weeks.
She put him in a closet and didn't feed him.
When she went back ... he was in the closet shaking... poor little thing almost dead I think.


Proves Jodi is one of those without a conscience. That's so scary. :13

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:55 am 
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Maltese Mama wrote:
I think the defense is trying to show that she suffers from a sexual variation of "battered woman syndrome". (Instead of him physically battering her, he was sexually and/or emotionally "battering" her.

Per Wikipedia:

This is a reference to any person who, because of constant and severe domestic violence usually involving physical abuse by a partner, may become depressed and/or unable to take any independent action that would allow him or her to escape the abuse. The condition explains why abused people may not seek assistance from others, fight their abuser, or leave the abusive situation. Sufferers may have low self-esteem, and are often led to believe that the abuse is their fault. Such persons may refuse to press charges against their abuser, or refuse all offers of help, perhaps even becoming aggressive or abusive to others who attempt to offer assistance.

I don't know if I agree with the expert on Domestic Violence who spoke on one of the shows tonight and said that in every case, the abused person always tells SOMEONE. I've seen cases that this is true, but then there are others that even though they say nothing, after a while, the people around them can see there is something wrong. They were only BF/GF about 4 months, but didn't even live together. That is just not long enough, imo, to be "battered" to the level of necessitating a slaughter!

We can see that Jodi is having a very difficult time saying anything bad about the sex. Why? She has nothing to "fear" anymore from Travis in speaking out. Also, she is virtually ignoring her lawyer's attempts to lead her into saying anything negative at this point that she should be fighting for her life. Everything about her comes off as her having enjoyed it.

(Sorry Rumpole.....but I have to say it :Q14 ) ......Psychotic, Controlling, Obsessive, Pitiful, needy Nympho - YES. Battered? NO.

Look how things turned out - Travis, according to the 48 Hour Special, and his 7 (?) siblings lived in abject poverty with parents who were meth addicts. The brother who sits in court, Steve, said at one point, he lived in a tent with his mom. The parents divorced when the kids were young and the kids went to live with their grandmother, who led them into the Mormon religion. Travis was able to pull himself out of his miserable childhood and make a responsible success out of himself.

Jodi, whose parents have been together for many years, had a good childhood with lots of family, according to her....turns into this disaster.

She is an extremely "bad seed." It happens.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:42 am 
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Links from last day.... should find today's links from here.
There is a Zimmerman hearing and I am going to dentist.... hope y'all can cope without me..... be back ASAP :51

Jodi Arias trial: March 5th, 2013

Link for LIVE STREAMING
http://www.azcentral.com/live/


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http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/02/28 ... -live-blog

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:02 am 
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We'll try to soldier on, Chief! Hope all goes well at the dentist! :43


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:04 am 
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These are all from Travis to Jodi believed to be sent sometime in April 2008. No one knows why Travis is so angry or what he found out! Then, of course, came the even angrier texts at the end of May, a week before he was killed (posted upthread).

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(illegible) you have that information. its 15 minutes it would take to gt the info. But you won't take 15minutes. Why because it is
an Fing lie. So either text me you that you are ready to tell the truth or give me your imaginary friend with the worst BS story you have ever told or leave me alone. Its a lie like no other. It is freaking foolish. There is no way out of it, you have
screwed up your story so bad you can't mend it. You are caught. When will you realize that. I do not know. You have til tomorrow. to have me this persons information before I tell all of the hughes' leslie udy, the freemans, your parents and anyone else that
matters about all the crazy things you have done. So either fess up or feel the wrath. No matter how bad the truth is I promise you
the punishment will be better than the lie. This is worse than your magical email that a mysterious man you've never seen before
wrote for you. You insult me by thinking ill believe such
crap. nothing else from you til the truth. I already know your lying so why continue. After tomorrow, its gonna get real bad for you. Time to spit it out.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:14 am 
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From yesterday.....

Martinez: Are you the subject of Baez's next book?

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kj that is the same person I heard speak awhile back on Jane's program.

She was saying then ... that they couldn't get Jodi to come into work from the parking lot, she kept trying
to contact Travis! She was supposed to be "on her shift"! I am not sure if this was before it started, or during the "shift", or both. I guess they had to take up the slack for her - and cover her tables. Nice.


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Court in Session


12:45 p.m. ET: Arias is on the stand, and Nurmi is showing the jury one of her journal entries.


Martinez now grilling Arias


12:50 p.m. ET: Martinez is asking Arias about when one of her journal entries was written.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:58 pm 
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In responding to Nurmi about what goes into her journal and what doesn't, Jodi cleverly/slyly says that "whatever is NOTEWORTHY" I would probably not want it in the journal (paraphrasing, but it was to that effect).

Clever use of the subliminal to counter that Martinez hammered her about her journal entry where she said "nothing noteworthy happened" on the day Travis SUPPOSEDLY kicked her and hurt her finger.


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12:56 p.m. ET: In another, entry Arias wrote Alexander showed her unconditional love, and she is "almost haunted by it."

12:55 p.m. ET: Nurmi is showing the jury a journal entry from January 24, 2012. This entry was written shortly after Arias allegedly witnessed Alexander masturbating to an image of a young boy. Arias wrote there was nothing worth mentioning in the entry. Arias just testified she did not write about the incident with Alexander, because she did not want to remember it.

12:50 p.m. ET: Prosecutor Juan Martinez is asking Arias about when one of her journal entries was written.


(REMINDER: Travis supposedly "broke" Jodi's finger on January 22,2008)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:58 pm 
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Hi Guys... still here dentist in about half an hour... and keeping an eye on Zimmerman.

I hope to catch up with JA trial later

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No prob, Rumpole! So much happening this morning!


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More Journal stuff

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Good work, Rumpole!

1:00 p.m. ET: In January 2008, Arias also wrote in here journal there was something "off" with Alexander, and she did not see herself marrying him. Arias testified Alexander proposed to her over the phone.

12:58 p.m. ET: Arias said she was "haunted" by his nice side, because it kept her hooked into the relationship.

12:56 p.m. ET: In another, entry Arias wrote Alexander showed her unconditional love, and she is "almost haunted by it."


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:06 pm 
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According to HLN:

Jodi Arias’ attorney Kirk Nurmi will try to convince the jury Tuesday that Travis Alexander's physical and sexual abuse pushed Arias to the point that she had to kill him in self-defense.

Nurmi is attempting to paint Alexander as an abusive sexual deviant who was aroused by children.


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