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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:34 pm 
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I am posting two more links for ya' all. These two days of testimony are
SO important, these are the police interrogations with Detective Flores & jodi.
Day 6 "I wasn't there", and Day 7 "Ninjas did it".
Notice Day 6 she's in street clothes, and Day 7 she's in orange... :93

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76clRq1lAwc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMGYvaBgXGc
...continues into Day 8 starting at about 25 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CngmMIQitTE


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:13 pm 
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One more thing I think is important to mention:
jodi told detectives she left home with between $80-$200 cash.
She paid for the gas in the gas cans with cash, and gas in her car with CC.
Detectives added up her cash spent, it totaled over $200. CC spent over $200.
After she left Travis's house, she made three cash deposits totaling $400 for her CC.
So, are we to assume she stole money from Travis to pay for the trip she took to kill him?
Where would she get $400 cash in the desert? WTF?

I hope everyone understands the things I am trying to get across, and if you have any
questions I will be glad t answer if I know the answer.
OR, I will just lie about it like jodiarias. heheeehheee!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:20 pm 
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You make your points very clearly, kj. :42

I don't think a cat person can be a big fat liar... your cats would know :8

If you do feel like just making stuff up..... piss off and post at JQ :31

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:31 pm 
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Yes, rumpy my cats know when I lie!!!!
I think you would, too!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:49 pm 
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rt I think that's just how SICK she is! I think killers like soveniers don't they?
Since she is SUCH a "wannabe photographer", what better way than to document it - her way?

She also is a wannabe artist. (She only copies from photographs ... the easy way.) I didn't
see any she did from life - the HARD WAY.

What she IS -- is a waitress! I notice in the documenaries she says "I am Jodie Arias... a photographer and an artist." She wishes.

My beautiful Artist who I was engaged to -- said "If they can't make a living in "their field",
maybe they don't belong in it." He made a wonderful living, owned a big house in center city Philadelphia. He died of cancer. :97


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:51 pm 
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kj I think you could be a P.I. Are you?
I am so glad you post all these great things here.
Thanks! :84


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I have been following this but not that much. They said he was stabbed and shot I heard they think he was shot after he was stabbed. My question is did she stab him then go get a gun and shoot him or vice versa either way that's not self defense that's a crime of passion.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:56 pm 
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Hi Joni :28

Jodi is an evil mess.... I can't imagine she was even a good waitress. I don't think she would make the effort to be good at what ever she did for a job or a hobby.

I have to put in a plug for waitresses.... in my experience they can be smart, talented people with all sorts of other interests in life. :9

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ftsk420 wrote:
I have been following this but not that much. They said he was stabbed and shot I heard they think he was shot after he was stabbed. My question is did she stab him then go get a gun and shoot him or vice versa either way that's not self defense that's a crime of passion.

I'll let kj give you a full answer... she did post a brief summary of how things went down.. its a few posts back

But to be going on with... my understanding, coming in late... is that the Jodi version we last hear in cross examination by Marinez... is total BS. She claims it was a shot first (accidental, gun just went off as he was lunging)

the TRUE story is she got him in vulnerable possition in shower.. and started stabbing him... continued to stab him as he staggered away. Dragged him back to bathroom to shoot him and cut his throat. She brought the gun to the appartment herself.

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I said a good while back that I think she has tormented him with superficial "slices" on his neck ... and that that
"red" might be blood.

Now, this, from the court room photos/autopsy. It is showing a person pointing out a "scratch" - or "light cut" on his neck there.
A TAUNTING type of knife cut - showing what is to come. I think there is one more on the other side - his right side.

THAT must be the look on his face then?

She had him sitting down. How vulnerable he was. She standing above him with that HUGE knife!! Do you see how WIDE it must be?
A butcher CHEF'S knife I think. OMG.


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"kjnelson" Here is a picture of jodiarais dragging Travis. Her pant leg takes up most of the picture."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... death.html

That's a version of the photo I had previously referenced, however this one is zoomed in.
Look at the picture; You'll see Travis Alexander's foot to the far right side & below center.
Note: There's an obvious blood trail from Travis's foot dragging along the hallway tile floor.

IMHO Juan Martinez should've asked Jodi Arias why there's a bloody drag trail leading away from the bathroom. Since Jodi claimed that an enraged Travis threatened her, chased her similar to a linebacker forcing Jodi to retrieve the pistol & fire it in self defense. Jodi stated that Travis collapsed on top of her as she lay on her back.
Yet the accidental photo clearly depicts that Jodi was lifting Travis head & shoulders off the floor while she was dragging him. Jodi was dragging Travis away from the bathroom & onto the bedroom carpet.
I'd opine that Travis was murdered in the bathroom, then dragged into the bedroom as evidenced by the photo. Why would Jodi drag the dead weight of Travis's corpse into the bedroom & then back into the bathroom shower? Jodi spent hours cleaning the homicide scene yet he spent .25 acp cartridge casing was recovered from upon a small pool of Travis's blood. That's indicative that the gunshot occurred inside the bathroom. The small pool of blood had to have congealed significantly or else the cartridge casing would've rolled & quickly settled within the pool of blood. Therefore the pool of blood had to have cooled for hours after Travis's death & the gunshot had to have occurred 3-5 hours post mortem.
When I consider both the bloody drag marks leading towards the bedroom & the congealed blood pool the brass casing landed upon. I draw the conclusion that the post mortem gunshot was to deflect attention away from the 29 slash/stab wounds & Travis's sliced throat. 29 stab wounds suggests the attack had a sexual element & the sliced throat suggests extreme rage. Jodi initially used the pistol as a means of control. I'll betcha Travis refused to allow Jodi control of him & she initiated the knife attack.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:53 pm 
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I searched YouTube for trial coverage with the photo evidence which displays the bloody drag trail.
See: @0:04:30








Edit Rumpole
Looks like you selected the CORRECT part of the YT url to keep
All I did was drag my cursor across it to highlight it and clicked the [youtube] button
(You need to be in "full editor" to see all the buttons and options for posts)


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Been spending the weekend catching up some more on the Arias saga. After wanting to hit my head on a door from listening to Jodi's whispery aaaaannnnnnnds and ummmmmmms ( :6 ), I had enough after watching 3 days of her on the stand (along with her version of what she did to Travis) and watched the 48 Hours Mystery interview of Jodi on Youtube. Her face looks so different than it does now...I suppose she is now more gaunt and older as opposed to her more fillled out face?

Watched the Ryan Burns interview as well (Day 4 of the Arias trial), along with both opening statements by the attorneys.

I am Jodi-ed OUT! :46


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So far what the scene "looks" like is that jodi stabbed Travis in the shower multiple times, he got out and was by the sink coughing up blood (if you've seen the sink photo), then he staggered down the hall as she stabbed him 9 times in the back. Finally he collapsed at the end of the tile, and that is where she slit his throat on the carpet. She then dragged him back to the shower. The accidental picture snapped as she lifted his arms and shoulders to turn him around and drag him back into the bathroom. She supposedly watered the floor slippery for easier dragging. There is a picture of a box in the closet that is water-blood soaked about 1/4 inch high. The gunshot came after all that, for reasons unexplained. Rage, sidetrack the scene, who knows the real reason why she shot him. IMO, I think she shot him after all of that to tell him she was the boss and had won the fight.
The casing landed on top of the blood that had been deposited earlier from the stabbing. She did not water down the bathroom, just the hallway. Also IMO, Travis never saw the stab/knife coming, she snapped a picture, then stabbed him just that fast. He was in a sitting position in the shower, she was squatted beside him, using the full force of her body. He was pretty much rendered helpless right then. I also think jodi was the kind of girl who just always carried some sort of knife around in her purse.
Actually, I don't think anyone will ever know those details...


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kj did you SEE the SIZE/WIDTH of those back stabs?

What a HUGE KNIFE that must have been! Cuts - two inches wide??


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This is what I believe happened:

Like many, I believe it started in the shower, at first the light taunting as Joni has mentioned above and then the stab in the heart as Travis lunged out (remember how there is always a kernel of truth at the heart of the lies) at her. I believe Travis then went to the sink to see what Jodi had done to him (explains his blood at the sink) and then Jodi began stabbing him in the back, etc. I think Travis then turned away and tried to get away by going down the hallway, but then had to drop to his knees from the injuries and began to crawl. That is when I think Jodi caught up to him, pulled his head back and slit his throat. (I can hardly even type this!).

Then I think is when she dragged him back, and as they neared the shower again and for reasons only known to that sick, evil monster Jodi, ( a demonic coupe de grace, perhaps?) shot him in the face.

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kjnelson wrote:
I will try to explain the dragging picture. The one used in court was much clearer.
On the left side, you can see black pant leg, and far left is white stripe down the
pant leg, jodi's.
On the right is the back of Travis's head, his shoulders, blood, and down to his foot.
Think of this as the camera lying on the floor almost underneath his shoulders, and
jodi stepping on it, accidentally snapping the photo as she was dragging him.

I hope this helps. :28

Thanks for the explanation - I don't know what's wrong with me, but I have such a hard time seeing any definitive lines between the pants, the socks, and Travis. At some point in court, I believe Martinez described to Jodi a "zipper" down there, too??


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kjnelson wrote:
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So far what the scene "looks" like is that jodi stabbed Travis in the shower multiple times, he got out and was by the sink coughing up blood (if you've seen the sink photo), then he staggered down the hall as she stabbed him 9 times in the back. Finally he collapsed at the end of the tile, and that is where she slit his throat on the carpet. She then dragged him back to the shower. The accidental picture snapped as she lifted his arms and shoulders to turn him around and drag him back into the bathroom. She supposedly watered the floor slippery for easier dragging. There is a picture of a box in the closet that is water-blood soaked about 1/4 inch high. The gunshot came after all that, for reasons unexplained. Rage, sidetrack the scene, who knows the real reason why she shot him. IMO, I think she shot him after all of that to tell him she was the boss and had won the fight.
The casing landed on top of the blood that had been deposited earlier from the stabbing. She did not water down the bathroom, just the hallway. Also IMO, Travis never saw the stab/knife coming, she snapped a picture, then stabbed him just that fast. He was in a sitting position in the shower, she was squatted beside him, using the full force of her body. He was pretty much rendered helpless right then. I also think jodi was the kind of girl who just always carried some sort of knife around in her purse.
Actually, I don't think anyone will ever know those details...


I was typing while you posted and our thoughts are similar, kj. I didn't even think of the water coming into play during the event.


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Great Graph from poster coconut from -http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthread.php?10763-Jodi-Ann-Arias-shot-and-stabbed-her-ex-boyfriend-Travis-Alexander-to-death&p=3330470&viewfull=1#post3330470


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Remote, great graph, but I think travis, anal, and snooping should take up 99%, 1% could be telling the truth. :34

Another great NEW link here-
Jodi Arias Trial - Sex, lies and audiotape. Anderson Cooper 360 special.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... C-tYAjGYPA


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