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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:49 am 
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Robert Zimmerman Jr. supporting online petition for brother
Posted: Nov 22, 2012 5:37 PM Updated: Nov 22, 2012 5:50 PM



LAKE MARY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35 ORLANDO) - Robert Zimmerman Jr. says, right after Trayvon Martin was shot and killed, there was a public relations campaign to ruin George Zimmerman's reputation. He says it was fabricated by people looking to gain attention in the case and now he'd like a federal investigation into whether his brother's civil rights were violated.

"He is not a murderer.," Robert Zimmerman Jr. says as he continues to defend his brother George. And this time, he's using an online petition to gather support. "The malicious stories they told in the beginning that even made a prosecution like this even possible. I don't think this should have been prosecuted."

The petition is one of many created on a website created by the White House, allowing citizens to speak out about their concerns. Robert says a man named David from California created this petition asking for a federal investigation into the malicious prosecution of George Zimmerman. While some Trayvon Martin supporters question the credibility of the creator, Robert Jr says the message on the petition is important because it questions the people involved early in the case, "Had more to do with promoting a self serving agenda and there's also some political interests or political motivations."

He says it was wrong for Trayvon Martin's family attorneys to insinuate that his brother is a racist murderer. "I think Benjamin Crump and Natalie Jackson laid a foundation for that to happen. Both Crump and Jackson deny acting malicious towards George Zimmerman. We talked to Benjamin Crump over the phone, "Everything we did I feel was certainly appropriate because there was going to be no arrest of a killer of an unarmed kid and that is a true tragedy." They say, they never called George Zimmerman a racist murderer, "We said from the beginning we don't know who he is, other than the fact that he shot this unarmed kid."

"In my eyes, George was a victim in a heinous assault," he says.

Zimmerman needs 25,000 signatures to get the attention of the federal government. Right now, he has around 70, but plans to work hard to collect more.


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http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/20163 ... or-brother

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:06 am 
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we petition the obama administration to:

Launch a Federal investigation into the malicious prosecution of George Zimmerman in Seminole County Florida


Launch an immediate federal investigation into the malicious prosecution of George Zimmerman and file federal civil rights violation charges again the individuals and agencies who have unlawfully and maliciously prosecuted Mr. Zimmerman without any evidence that Mr Zimmerman had committed a crime.

Created: Nov 17, 2012
Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties, Criminal Justice and Law Enforcement, Firearms

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... a/TWv1G7lk

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There are three people who signed the petition using names like GeorgeisaMurderer that have to be just a little crazy. Do they not realize that they have logged on to the freaking White House site? LOL. It isn't like any other site. They are so traceable. By the likes of the FBI.

Can they get any dumber??? Oh, yes they can...

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Yes... their stupidity knows no bounds. I imagine that the White House Site would not take kindly to misuse and frivolous postings. Sitting at their computer they don't seem to realise how exposed their identity is really. Emboldened by what they think is anonymity they do type some outrageous and libellous nonsense.

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CCPing myself:

Authorities still don't know what's on Trayvon Martin's cellphone
Defense attorneys say they need to know more.

ARTICLE

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...Sanford police Detective Doris Singleton contacted the carrier, T-Mobile, asking for the code. The company told her they could get to the information if they had the PIN to the account. On March 5, Sanford police Sgt. Joe Santiago asked Tracy Martin for the PIN, according to a police report. Tracy Martin said he'd check with his attorney.

Martin never got back with police. At a March 8 news conference in Orlando, Tracy Martin told reporters he would not help police download information from the phone.


As it is now, it might be a help for the Defense, might not so I can understand the hesitancy. But looking at the dates, why would he not be assisting authorities to help get that arrest that the family was screaming to the heavens about.

IANaCG (computer genius) or anything close to but couldn't they take that memory chip out and put it into another android phone of same make and model? Who cares if the exterior of the phone gets damaged or destroyed? I don't even think they ran test for fingerprints or blood on it.

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...When questioned last month about Tracy Martin's decision to withhold the phone's PIN from authorities, family attorney Benjamin Crump said, "I don't know anything about that. We're going to do anything prosecutors say we should."


Last month, as in October... How many fingers did Crump have crossed when he issued that statement?

The Prosecution certainly doesn't want to know all of the pertinent facts to the case, do they? I mean that phone has all of the data for Dee Dee on it. Their main witness! It might be hard to swallow that bitter pill if there are texts between the two of them that shore up Defense claims. Or if they find out the call logs don't exactly match what was given to the press. (Matt Gutman @ABC) ((insert possible egg on face))

Maybe they are now in fear that it could be "accidentally" disclosed since BdlR has proven himself to be rather inept at keeping court ordered secrets...and their case would evaporate.


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From the always amazing DiwataMan:
http://diwataman.wordpress.com/2012/11/ ... #more-2140

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...“The depositions that we’ve had previously there were two attorneys for Mr. Zimmerman, two attorneys for the State, I[Mr. Flood] was there for the witnesses, and while the depositions were going on one of the State attorneys would go out and talk to the next witness, quite an unusual process, most of the witnesses had no problem with that, one of them did not appreciate that and wasn’t sure what they were supposed to do in that process.”

After Mr. Flood spoke, the judge asked O’Mara if he had a response, he did not.


MOM was probably put into a position he is rarely in...utterly speechless! LOL!


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Thanks for the links, Deb. Nice to see you are all playing nicely together at CTH :24


As Sir Walter Scott opined:
    Oh what a tangled web we weave,
    When first we practise to deceive!


It's good to see the Scheme Team Web of lies continuing to lose strands... webs are resilient up to a point but then collapse catastrophically.... lets hope the analogy holds true and we see a complete collapse of the Scheme Team web of lies, with spiders scurrying for cover.

The recent "Revelations" about missed/botched evidence in the Casey Anthony case though does give pause. Evidence can and is overlooked or botched. O'Mara does need to keep at the LE witnesses and......
The phone... my God that should have been.... inspected, detected...And LE should have used all kinds of cop equipment that they had hanging around the police officer's station. They should have taken plaster tire tracks, foot prints, dog smelling prints, and twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence.

It is unbelievable that that phone was not inspected physically for prints, DNA etc... and the contents for sure.

If MOM now has all the info on that phone I wish he would at least let that be known.

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I kind of think the intense hatred towards Zimmerman is a direct result from the unfavorable decision by the jury in the Anthony case. People tie the two together all the time despite nothing in common but both happened in the State of Florida.

They can't reach her to change a verdict but they can interfere with the outcome of this case by polluting the jury pool. Just IMO.

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Nah... as I keep saying... I ran with that pack of dogs (JQ).. and they always HATE with a passion.
It really is all about a Lynchin' and not about justice.

It looks worse in this case.. but it's same hate for every accused. It looks worse here because there is a strong opposing view that they are (were) confronted with. They were just as nasty about Casey Anthony and ANYBODY associated with her.... I confess I was part of that.
But anybody who goes to trial is assumed guilty and their family scum... their lawyers shysters etc

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Rumpole wrote:
Nah... as I keep saying... I ran with that pack of dogs (JQ).. and they always HATE with a passion.
It really is all about a Lynchin' and not about justice.

It looks worse in this case.. but it's same hate for every accused. It looks worse here because there is a strong opposing view that they are (were) confronted with. They were just as nasty about Casey Anthony and ANYBODY associated with her.... I confess I was part of that.
But anybody who goes to trial is assumed guilty and their family scum... their lawyers shysters etc


I don't understand that mindset. My cousin was brutally murdered in Austin some years back. I don't "hate" the man that killed him. I don't even use the word "stalked" though his killer followed him home for some 10-15 minutes, into a gated community, then beat him to death with a baseball bat. I should link to his appeal sometime. He thought he should have been charged with manslaughter instead of murder. State of Texas didn't play. Guy is serving 32-life.

Hate takes up too many brain cells. Always having to find a new reason to hate one person when you are confronted with something that your previous conception has been proven wrong.


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From what I have read, Casey Anthony is a piece of work.


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You don't KNOW KC? :31

I'll post one of the million YT's I made... in the Casey is Stupid thread:

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=7&p=17879#p17879

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Sundance at CTH weighs in on the Sentinel article...

Sides square off on getting what's in Trayvon's cellphone
Zimmerman's defense says it needs phone's info, but Trayvon's dad isn't giving PIN to authorities
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... 2835.story

Always good to Read Sundance's analysis :24

Alexander Graham Bell Would Not Be Proud……
Posted on November 24, 2012 by sundancecracker

Note to Rene: Did you ask the FBI, or Feds? Before publication.

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Martin never got back with police. At a March 8 news conference in Orlando, Tracy Martin told reporters he would not help police download information from the phone.
    Why not?

    Also, Thursday March 8th was the Presser at the law office of Natalie Jackson, it was the first public display of Sybrina Fulton and the first time she had travelled to Orlando/Sanford since the shooting (she never went to Sanford when she found out Trayvon was shot and killed).

    Tracy Martin told reporters “he would not help police”. Funny how the media never published this March 8th proclamation before this article. Makes you wonder why? We knew the refusal from the words of law enforcement who were being skewered for doing a poor job, but no one in the media ever admitted the Scheme Team or Tracy Martin proclaimed he would not help police…..

    Well, at least that was until Pam Bondi accidentally let it slip on the Piers Morgan show that similarly Benjamin Crump was stopping DeeDee from talking to police or law enforcement investigators….


Read Sundancecracker blog at:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... -be-proud/

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Can Tracy Martin be legally forced to provide that Pin number?

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I just left the CTH, where I quickly skimmed the last three days of postings on the case that I missed.

This time, for some reason, I was struck by something that knuckledraggingwino posted. I've heard it before, and I think from him, but I always disregarded it as simply too fantastic, and the symptom of too much speculation.

But tonight, for some reason, my kitteh whiskas began to twitch.

What if that "orphan phone" isn't Trayvon's?

What if it's Chads?

And, what if Chad did use it to film Trayvon "putting the bangaz on da cracka"? :13

Would certainly 'splain a lot...

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Hi Pen :28

I have read all the phone speculation at CTH. I don't dismiss it at all, just that...... being a sceptic I am loathe to accept anything that hints at conspiracy... I guess I am agnostic on the phone issue(s)

It is just speculation unless or until there is some evidence shown.

And we don't want to vanish up our own own anuses (cloacas in the case of the Cockatoo) with "What if's...." like they do at JQ :31

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Rumpole wrote:
Hi Pen :28
(snip)
Rumpole wrote:
It is just speculation unless or until there is some evidence shown.
(snip)

Yep! You're totally right. I wuz just sayin' I wouldn't be surprised.

But, it's probably best to keep it to myself, rather than fuel the fire.

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Thanks! I needed that. :43

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Yes we all need a cold shower sometimes :61

Discuss away if you like.. don't let me put you off :24

It is a good hypothesis to test. I am somewhat dumbfounded that basic investigation was not done.. and released in State discovery by now. The phone found at the scene... prime evidence for DNA etc as well as content. OF COURSE LE can get all the data from the phone.... to claim otherwise is just stupid. That should have been done long before now. We don't want any stuff-ups and overlooked evidence like in the ANT case.

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Rumpole wrote:
It is a good hypothesis to test. I am somewhat dumbfounded that basic investigation was not done.. and released in State discovery by now. The phone found at the scene... prime evidence for DNA etc as well as content. OF COURSE LE can get all the data from the phone.... to claim otherwise is just stupid. That should have been done long before now. We don't want any stuff-ups and overlooked evidence like in the ANT case.


Rumpole, remember...I'm a noob at this. I don't know what "the ANT case" is. And when I gaggled for it using "the ANT case" as my search string, I got over 2 million hits about some sort of computer programming gobbledygook. :43

As for my idle speculation here, and your reply, yes! I agree completely on both counts.

It's insulting to be told they can't get the data, don't know where the phone password is, can't make the phone work because it's got a dead battery, ping logs are locked in the Ark of the Covenant, blah, blah, blah...

Florida is SUCH a banana republic anyway. Lest we forget, that was where Jeb Bush migrated to, back when dinosaurs were young, somehow got elected gubenor, and looted the Savings and Loans for billions. And that was just the start...

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K sorry... ANT = Anthony case as in Casey Anthony. It is partially a personal joke. At WS it was verboten to use some names and terms such as "ANT" so I messed with their heads by posting pics of ants and ant smileys etc :31

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