Clearly, the lynch mob have a fixed OPINION of what happened.... it seems they bought the initial narrative....

They will not be convinced by any old evidence stuff.....

The Way It's NOT


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And the narrative will continue with more sympathy added during the Dr. Phil show. I wonder why Dr. Phil is so bias on this case, so blatantly pro TM? Is it his connection to Oprah? Does she have any input on his shows? Just makes me wonder...

Just keeping an eye on side issues....

Shellie Zimmerman is still facing perjury charges... and Nelson is the Judge.

I wonder if that is not a "conflict of interest" and others have suggested that the charges against her should be dropped?

There is "Docket Sounding" hearing scheduled for Sept. 19

http://www.seminoleclerk.org/CriminalDo ... 2CF001792A

08/01/2012 SYS NOTICE FOR DOCKET SOUNDING SEP 19, 2012 AT 09:00 AM PRINTED

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We hear over and over GZ has a criminal background and TM had none. From the limited information we have on TM, while he may have not been charged or convicted of a crime, he certainly participated in criminal activity. The defacing of school property would fall under the heading of criminal mischief. Possession of drug paraphernalia in Florida is a criminal offense and can be brought on its own, or as a companion with other drug possession or drug sale charges. Then there is the matter of the jewelry and screw driver found in his backpack. Most schools have a zero tolerance policy and I believe the screw driver would be classified as a weapon and be a violation of the policy.

I'm not sure if the 53 days absent is true but, if it is, this is also subject to legal action...

Habitual Truancy
Chapter 232.19 of the Florida Statutes outlines the procedures and penalties for a child found to be a habitual truant. A child is considered to be a habitual truant if she accumulates 15 unexcused absences within a 90-calendar-day period. The school superintendent is authorized to initiate court proceedings against the truant child and the parents or legal guardians by filing a petition of truancy.

It seems to me TM has been given a free ride on his documented criminal activities and bad behavior. What were his consequences?? On his last suspension... it didn't appear he was grounded...got to go galavanting with his cousin (maybe movies, maybe not), no loss of TV or phone, Tracy handed over approx $100.00 overnight spending money. Doesn't sound like he suffered any consequences. Maybe he figured the same would happen if he beat up GZ, no consequences, no big deal...

There is NO DOUBT at all that TM was NOT your average teen... he WAS already involved with minor crime... at the very least warning signs of a youth going off the rails.

One suspension, let alone 3, would be a warning sign to responsible parents.. which clearly Tracy, and Sabrina, and Alicia, and Brandi, and God knows who else, were NOT!!!!

This case is so tragic for GZ and family.. but also tragic that nobody is seeing, let alone learning from, the sad facts of a teen going down the wrong path getting ZERO support from dysfunctional parents and family.

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Rumpole

Sorry you can remove ASAP if you wish, but I just had to find a place to vent.

Just watched Dr. Phil and the Martins. How dare they sit there and remain silent and allow Dr. Phil to believe Jahvaris is Tracy's son? How dare they? I'd love Dr. Phil to find out he has been punked.

And Sybrinia's false eyelashes!! I was hoping she would wipe one off with her contant wiping her tears.

I refused to watch the Phil farse, but have read bits and pieces. Phil punked ...though a willing participant...and all the sheeple are singing his praise...and the grieving parents, oh my, but the show must go on...

Urgent vent needs are recognised here

I am only moving stuff that is more a "other forum" rant rather than a Zimmerman case Rant.

Both rants are OK.. just a matter of where to file them

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At the risk of going Off Topic myself... if you READ at the Trayvon Zone... the only place to post a reply is HERE!!!!!

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Yes, some good comments over at the TH. I'm proud of myself tonight, have not ventured to the Trayvon Zone since this morning. I couldn't stomach to read the homage to Dr. Phil and how they all spent the day "crying" since it aired...

He was definitely on a downward spiral. I don't know if we will ever know what was disturbing him, but it seemed like things escalated with each incident. And they are the ones we know about. No one is caught every time they do something. It was a cry for help to have all this happen in a 6 month period and I would imagine lack of limits didn't help the situation.

Mr. Zimmerman didn't have anything happen for over 7 years so I would imagine whatever was his problem at that time was worked through.

I think what will always be frustrating is not knowing what happened to make Mr. Martin react the way he did.

They have been doing this since the beginning because their "story" has been sanitized to present a picture of a caring family.

I think they should have stuck to the truth because even with some issues one could still imagine that they cared for their son. The way it is now, you just wonder if the lies are hiding something really bad.

I'm not surprised Dr. Phil would sink to this level. The demographic that watches his show is the same type of people who would be conducive to this type of manipulation.

still aint getting it i suppose rumpy rehashing shit thats already been done

OK i dont mind being wrong, naive and stoopid but I DONT LIKE GUNS never have i have no idea what i would do if someone was laying in top of me with a gun depends how big the gun was probably be thinking wow just won lotto or idk lol :4

and if those gun toting koalas came i wouldnt be thinking of england (WTF) i would be thi nking about jumping out the way they wee like a camel and stink !!!! OMG

no koalas where eaten during the making of this pic who wants to eat a chlaymidia infested camel weeing stinking furry bear thing thats not really a bear

The point is/was.......

..... that.....

Trayvon was NOT just a little child... on his way back from the shops with sweeties for his little bother


George was not a White Racist out to shoot any old black kid.


The story put out is a LIE!!!!

There is ONLY GZ's version of events... and that is backed up by ALL the witnesses (what little they saw and heard)

You HAVE to accept that version unless there is some evidence of another... and there is not.

so..................... what you may have read is UNTRUE

The gun thing is NOT the norm in Australia (or NZ)... but given that it IS legal and normal in USA (Florida)... so to translate this story.. imagine you were looking to see where some dude ran off to (to tell the cops that had just asked you to keep an eye on what he does)... and the guy jumps out... punches you then gets on top of you and starts pounding your head into the concrete.... don't you think that if you could reach a weapon (eg a large rock) you would smash the attacker..... at least once to make him stop? I would. The "rock" in this case was a gun that many Americans carry for just this sort of occasion. They hope that they will NEVER have to use their gun....... but the ONLY POINT in carrying a gun is to SHOOT somebody on an occasion like we have here.

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All reason and any sense of logic has been overtaken by the distorted, over-hyped narrative put out by the sleazy, race-card dealing, over-reaching lawsuit monger Crump and the rest of the opportunists who have latched on to create the wild level of pure hyper drama case has reached.

(whew. I know this is a horrible, run on sentence but I had to get that out!)


(hey...I like my purple flower! thanks, Rumpole! )

Hi, my friend! I'm finally back.

Beautifully worded, flare (as always!) I stopped watching the fool when he did the George and Cindy Anthony interview. He is SUCH a manipulator/opportunist that I can't stand to even look at his creepy face.

Hey girl! - so glad you're here, too!

Yep, this whole fiasco is due to people not taking responsibility for their actions. In the Martin parent's case, they did not make their son face the consequences of his very bad behavior. At his age, school is all they are required to do. When they can't do that, there is a big problem. Sybrina is educated enough to know this, yet she couldn't or didn't want to use her parental brakes. The father did even worse.

Just as the GZ haters love to keep repeating that idiocy of "he should have stayed in his truck" - we can go back with both people involved in this tragedy and it doesn't solve anything. Mistakes were made with the 2 involved that night and the TM supporters refuse to face it.


(PMing you....)

Hindsight always provides moments that would have seen events unfold differently.

I have said before... I think I would have done pretty much the same as GZ... phone the cops about somebody.... then try to see where he went after he ran off.

It seems to me that GZ thought the guy had run towards (and out) the back entrance of the community... he said just that to NEN operator. Clearly TM did not run out or run home and stay there... he had plenty of time to do that. He stayed hidden near the "T" (or came back)... and attacked GZ

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It just makes zero sense that someone with "nefarious" intentions, wanting to purposefully "hunt down and kill" another human being would be on the phone with the cops begging them to come.

All logic has flown out the window with the overly-dramatic tricoteuses

(perfect word you came up with for them!)