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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:28 am 
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Defense objection overruled. Dr. Baden continues testimony...

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Drew Peterson trial updates:

12:15 p.m. Pathologist testified for O.J., Burge
As he wrapped up his cross examination, defense attorney Ralph Meczyk tried to tie pathologist Michael Baden to both O.J. Simpson and disgraced former Chicago Police Cmdr. Jon Burge.

Meczyk testified as a defense witness in both cases.

"And Jon Burge was accused of torturing innocent victims," Meczyk said, talking loudly over the repeated objections of prosecutors.

"Mr. Meczyk, stop," Judge Edward Burmila said.

"I have nothing further," Meczyk said.

Baden was excused as a witness and the trial recessed for lunch until 1:15 p.m.

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Drew Peterson trial updates:

2 p.m. Prosecutors bring back pathologist
Prosecutors re-called forensic pathologist Dr. Mary Case, a specialist in neuropathology, to the stand. They are seeking to rebut a defense witness who testified Kathleen Savio could have suffered a diffuse brain injury that would have left no signs at autopsy.

Case testified that a diffuse axonal injury could not have happened in Savio's case.

"I disagree because we do not see diffuse axonal injury outside of very significant trauma — motor vehicle accidents, falls greater than 15 to 20 feet," she said.

Defense attorney Darryl Goldberg is questioning Case about her fees, which are more than $8,500. Case said she charges $350 an hour to review government cases and $650 an hour in other cases.

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Drew Peterson trial updates:

2:40 p.m. Prosecution rests; closings on Tuesday

Prosecutors have rested their case and Judge Edward Burmila said closing arguments will be Tuesday, after the holiday weekend.

Attorneys on Friday will hammer out instructions for the jury before it deliberates.

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Drew Peterson Trial - Day 20 - Testimony over (WGN NEWS)


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Thanks so much once again for all the updates. :24 It doesn't seem Dr. Baden had much of an impact at least from what I read. And now the jury has four days to think about everything to themselves before closing arguments on Tuesday.


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Hi Sunstar... I guess I am doing it all just for you..... :24
Thanks for reading :86

It is good practice.. and good exercise to keep my trial posting skills in shape



It is hard to gauge things.... not seeing it.

My thoughts today were that the prosecution have an advantage going last with a rebuttal.... so putting Baden on in rebuttal might have an impact. He is world renowned.... I just think in this case potentially biased.

The "own goal" with Smith on the stand for defense yesterday was a biggie too I think.

All in all..... I think the closing arguments will be critical.

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TRIAL DAY 21 (8-31-12)

STATE OF IL. VS. DREW PETERSON


Trial Day Starts in Joliet Il. - Friday, August 30, 2012 11:15 AM CT

Days will be ....Tuesday through Friday, every week until it goes to jury!!!

There will be no camera's in courtroom unfortunately so we will have to rely on twitter for information as to what is going on in courtroom & also Updates from several outlets.

TRIAL UPDATES: Chicago Tribune Breaking News
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... g&lpos=Sub

LIVESTREAMING FOR TRU TV
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WGN TV - Drew Peterson trial (links to daily blogs)
http://www.wgntv.com/news/drewpeterson/

5 nbcchicago - Peterson Trial Live Blog
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InSession on Facebook
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IN SESSIONS.
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Testimony has concluded, so no Jury today. They will return Tuesday to hear closing arguments (hopefully)

But today the attorneys will hammer out instructions for the jury before it deliberates.

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So based on the testimony, how do you guys think the jury is most likely to rule?

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Hi rtmember :42

Up until the home goal with Smith... I though NOT GUILTY for sure... but now I wonder... could go to HUNG?

It's a Jury so ANYTHING is possible...

IMO Drew certainly murdered Kathleen.. based on the preponderance of the evidence. BUT.......
That is NOT the standard required.. it is "Beyond Reasonable doubt"... and I don't think it has been shown to that standard that it was not an accident.... DrewP should walk (sadly)

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In Session
Judge Burmila is on the bench. “Good morning, everyone . . . this is a jury instruction conference. Then the State has filed a motion in limine, which we’ll discuss after the instruction conference is over.”

In Session Attorney Joel Brodsky addresses the Court regarding the first proposed instruction. The defense wants extra language in a standard instruction telling jurors not to let sympathy or prejudice influence their deliberations. Prosecutor Koch argues against the modified language. Brodsky: “The jury should be aware that [punishment] is not for them to worry about.” Judge: “The version submitted by the State is a correct statement of the law. The defendant’s modified [version] is denied.”

In Session The next instruction concerns outside sources of information. Once again, the defense offers a modified version, says the instruction as written is actually appropriate for a pre-trial instruction, not post-trial. The judge seems inclined not to re-read the instruction to the jury, but to submit it along with the written instructions. Brodsky: “We’ve had multiple people who have been sitting behind the State’s table, and actually instructed in and out of the courtroom by Chuck Pelkie, who after court addressed favorably the way the State’s case was going, and addressed in a negative fashion the way the case was going for the defense . . .they’re also on occasion criticizing the Court’s rulings. I don’t know what Mr. Pelkie is telling them . . . I just think that given the potential of some connection, reading this instruction to instruct the jury once again that they’re not to consider anything that may have filtered by to them through the press is beneficial to ensuring that Mr. Peterson gets a fair trial.”

In Session Prosecutor Koch responds, calls this defense complaint “purely speculative . . . I don’t see the purpose in reading this again at the end of the case.” Attorney Greenberg: “Why not give it, just in an overabundance of caution? There’s no harm.” Judge: “First of all, in regards to the allegations about communications with the press, I don’t know that what you’ve related to me today is something I can take into account . . . if what you’re saying is accurate, and the State’s Attorney’s office is using an agent to make derogatory comments about the Court, that’s something they’re going to have to answer to in a different setting. The case law in Illinois is completely clear that these instructions should not be modified, unless there’s a significant reason to modify them . . . we did give the instruction before the trial started . . . over the defendant’s objection, the instruction will not be modified, and it will be given to the jury in writing.”

In Session The next instruction involves the believability of witnesses. Brodsky has no objection to this instruction, and the instruction will be given as prepared.

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In Session The next instruction involves opening statements. Again, the defense has no objection. The prosecution has an objection to the next instruction, related to the use of the word “deputy” instead of “bailiff.” The judge decides to grant the State’s suggested modification to change the word. The next several instructions will be read without objection (regarding the defendant’s pleading not guilty, presumption of innocence, defendant’s right not to testify, and the definition of circumstantial evidence).

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In Session The defense has an objection to the next instruction, which Greenberg says is confusing. This apparently involves “statements” (but whether they’re media statements or hearsay statements is unclear, according to the defense). Brodsky proposes that the word “hearsay” be inserted in front of “statements,” to make the instruction’s meaning clearer. “Otherwise, they’re not going to know what we’re talking about . . . you haven’t heard evidence of the defendant’s statements; you’ve heard evidence about what may have been the defendant’s statements. That’s the problem with hearsay.” Prosecutor Koch: “Those aren’t hearsay statements.” Judge: “No, they’re hearsay. They’re admissible hearsay, but they’re still hearsay.” Koch: “I don’t think the instruction needs to be modified in any way. I think it’s appropriate.” Brodsky: “The jury doesn’t have any guideline by which to determine.” Judge: “Sure they do, the last sentence . . . it’s right there . . . I think that this is a correct statement of the law. The jury is advised that they can consider any of the statements they’ve heard that have been attributed to the defendant. The jury has to determine whether they believe the defendant even made those statements, and the circumstances under which they were made . . . I think it’s a correct statement of the law, and the defendant’s objections are overruled.”

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In Session The next instruction regards challenging the believability of witnesses. Attorney Greenberg says that the defense has its own proposed instruction on this issue. Attorney Joe Lopez: “The State tendered two versions of it. We want every variation.” Judge: “That doesn’t stand on its own.” Greenberg: “I don’t think it’s one or the other.” Prosecutor Koch: “This is for inconsistent statements.” Judge: “I think with those bracketed portions included would now be an accurate statement of the law.”

In Session The State has a proposed modification to the next instruction. Brodsky says that the defense also has its own proposed version of this instruction. Judge: “The State’s modification is a correct statement of the law, and will be given.”

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In Session The next instruction concerns the definition of murder. Brodsky offers some minor modifications to the instruction’s grammar. “Other than that, we have no objection to it.” Judge: “I think the defendant’s objection is well-taken.” He orders the grammatical changes to be made to this instruction.

In Session The defense objects to the next proposed instruction, “the issues instruction.” Greenberg: “The indictment charges he intended to kill . . . it does not charge he intended to kill or do great bodily harm . . . this indictment is very specific in that he alleges that he caused her to inhale fluid . . . I believe because they have specifically alleged inhaling fluid, the instruction should require the jurors find that. So I believe the instruction should be modified to include that he intended to kill her by causing her to inhale fluid, or caused her to inhale fluid knowing that such an act created the possibility of death or great bodily harm.” Greenberg concedes, however, that he has no case law that supports the defense position. “Here, I still don’t know how they say she died. How did he cause her to inhale fluid? They still haven’t said that.” Prosecutor Griffin responds: “There’s nothing that would suggest this is a factual modifier that should be included . . . we would ask that [the standard instruction] be given.” Judge: “I’m not aware of any case that allows the issues instruction to include a factual modifier . . . I think that the instruction is a correct statement of the law, and with no precedential support for the objection that Mr. Peterson is making, the modification is denied, and the instruction will be given as stated.”

In Session Based on the judge’s ruling, Greenberg asks for a motion in limine, asking that the State be precluded from arguing any other theory except that Kathleen Savio was forced to inhale fluid. For the moment, the motion is denied, but may be brought up again later.

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In Session The judge now moves to the concluding instructions. The defense objects to the verdict forms, but the judge overrules that objection. “Now we need to address the defendant’s proposed instructions” (most of which he’s already denied). The State objects to the judge re-reading the various cautionary instructions that the jury has already heard. “The cure was during the course of the trial; there’s no need to do it again.” Greenberg insists that part of the sanctions against the State mandate that the cautionary instructions be read again. Judge: “You asked me to caution the jury, and I did . . . the Court did say at the time it cautioned the jury that I would re-read these cautions again at the end of the trial. [But] I don’t see the need at this point in time to re-read these cautionary instructions . . . so the defendant’s motion is denied; they will not be re-read to the jury. And if they are, any modifications will be up to the Court.” Greenberg: “Can we still argue these things?” Judge: Absolutely.”

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In Session The next proposed defense instruction concerns a definition of “reasonable doubt,” which Brodsky is asking be read to the jury. “There is no direct evidence whatsoever . . . it’s a circumstantial case, based on hearsay. So they [the jurors] should be instructed on what reasonable doubt is.” The judge denies the request: “There is no better definition of ‘reasonable doubt’ than the words themselves. No definition of reasonable doubt will be given in this case.”

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In Session The next proposed defense instruction involves “failure to produce evidence or a witness.” The defense hopes for an instruction based on a similar civil instruction, and offers that civil instruction for use as a template. Attorney Greenberg cites case law that he believes supports the defendant’s argument. Judge: “The Court recognizes there are instructions that can be given to the jury in regards to the failure to call a witness . . . the defendant does not have the ability to use a shield as a sword . . . I think it would only be confusing, and the defendant’s proposed instruction is denied.”

In Session The next proposed defense instruction concerns regarding “the multiplicity of attorneys.” Greenberg says this is important “because of the number of attorneys in this case, and because this case is being personally prosecuted by the State’s Attorney . . . given the number of times the jury had to be excluded, and the length of time, I think it’s important the jury knows it’s no one’s fault . . . it just reinforces, especially given the length of time. Where’s the harm?” Prosecutor Griffin: “I believe this misstates the law, and I don’t even understand the reason for it.” Judge: “I think the record has to be clear; there was an unusual number of sidebars in this case . . . we wouldn’t them to be frustrated in any fashion in regards to the number of times they did have to leave the courtroom . . . I think if you guys could get your heads together along the lines of some instruction, I think it would be helpful. If you could agree on some language, I think it might be appropriate in this case to address that subject again.”

In Session The defense offers an instruction regarding “the prior conviction of a witness.” The prosecution objects to this instruction (which seems to deal solely with prosecution witness Jeff Pachter). The judge decides to give this instruction. “It goes to the issue of moral turpitude, and I’m going to give it.”

In Session The next defense proposal has to do with the issue of jury speculation regarding the bifurcation of the Peterson/Savio divorce (and incorrect statements of the law regarding that issue, specifically how the death of one of the parties affects that proceeding). Before he hears argument on this issue, Judge Burmila consults a bound reference volume. Judge: “The instruction is mostly testimonial in its outlook . . . to remind the jurors they heard this testimony, that’s testimonial, not a statement of the law . . . you need to put it in an explanation of the law, rather than a recount of the testimony.”

In Session Greenberg offers the next proposed defense instruction, which concerns “the implication that Mr. Peterson might be a beneficiary of some kind . . . we would like you to inform the jury that he was no longer an heir, because they were divorced, and he was not listed as a beneficiary in the will.” Prosecutor Griffin responds, objecting to the defense’s proposed instruction. “What matters is what his state of mind was, and whether he thought he might have specific financial benefits from this crime.” Koch: “That goes right to his state of mind. We wanted to produce testimony to that, and we were precluded from doing so.” Greenberg: “All we’re asking you to do is present a correct statement under the law.” Judge: “The defendant’s instruction will not be given. The evidence in this case in regards to the issue of what the defendant’s posture would be post-divorce and in advance of the property distribution, I think, is irrelevant . . . this instruction is one that goes toward evidence, and not the law in this case . . . so I don’t see any need for this instruction at all; it’s not an accurate statement of the law, as it’s applicable in this case. So it will not be given.”

In Session The State objects to the next proposed defense instruction, saying it’s irrelevant. Brodsky responds: “This goes to correct a misstatement of the law that Mr. Smith gave from the stand.” Judge: “I will say that when Mr. Smith made this statement in front of the jury about concealing a homicidal death . . . at the time, you did not cross-examine him any further when he made the statement. Is that correct?” Brodsky: “I only cross-examined him on his prior statements that it was extortion.” Judge; “So you had an opportunity to cross-examine him on whether the information he was giving the jury was incorrect?” Brodsky: “I was a bit taken by surprise.” Judge: “How does the fact that you were surprised and did not cross-examine him on this issue, how does a jury instruction cure that?” Brodsky: “Because it would advise the jurors that the law he told them was wrong. They could use that in evaluating the weight and credibility to give his testimony.” Greenberg: “The jury should be advised that it was an incorrect statement of the law. To do otherwise is to leave the jurors with an incorrect understanding of the law.” Griffin: “The correct understanding of the law they need to have is the law of this case.” Judge: “You’re not disputing that what he [Smith] said was wrong?” Griffin: “All Mr. Smith was doing was clarifying that he was not talking to her about extortion.” Judge: “But Mr. Smith says he was advising her about a crime that she could not have committed.” Griffin: “This is not something that should be included in a jury instruction; it should have been addressed at the time that Mr. Smith was testifying.” Judge: “I believe everybody will believe that what she told him did not constitute the crime of concealing a homicidal death . . . that’s a separate issue from whether or not a special instruction is curative. What Ms. Griffin said is correct; if you abandon that line of questioning, I don’t know if you can come back and ask for a jury instruction later.” Greenberg: “The fact is that he was wrong, and it is the Court’s obligation to advise the jury on the law, not a witness’ obligation . . . it would be unjust to have the jury have an incorrect understanding of the law simply because maybe something should have been said or done earlier.” Judge: “You [the defense] called him . . . you called this witness . . . there’s nothing I can see that the State did to augment or embellish Mr. Smith’s testimony. The defendant’s proposed instruction is denied . . . there was no request for a sidebar, no request that the Court correct the information. So the relief the defendant seeks in the form of a jury instruction is denied.”

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In Session Brodsky proposes the next defense special instruction (regarding accusations of witnesses of wrongdoing by the defendant). “This is the only crime that he’s charged with . . . they should not consider any other collateral evidence of wrongdoing.” Griffin: “It seems to me that the defendant’s suggesting that the jury can’t consider any of the evidence against him.” Brodsky: “Some of those people Mr. Pelkie has escorted to the microphone have said why Stacy Peterson is not here . . . people are saying jurors will consider that against Mr. Peterson . . . there’s other accusations out there, Judge. Jurors are only to consider the charged crime, and not anything outside of that. It seems as if a lot of the State’s case was aimed at bringing in other accusations against the defendant and getting them in front of the jury.” Judge: “I understand the argument that the defendant is making . . . I think the instructions as a whole address the issue that the defendant is concerned about . . . that objection is overruled, and will not be given.”

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