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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:04 pm 
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Plea deal would be a travesty.. and open the door for the REAL agenda here.... civil suits by Crump et al.

I predict:

Lester recused
Immunity hearing won by GZ

At the outside... trial.. GZ wins with a self-defence defense.

I looked and you were not on the map here... I'll check again here at RT and on the HFTM map.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:10 pm 
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You were not on it.. you are now :24

http://goo.gl/maps/NxBDR

You were on the map at HFTM....

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:21 pm 
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I predict that in court the cockatoo will be called to give evidence.....

BDLR will claim that it is silent because it's taking the 5th (or perhaps just pining for the fijords).... but on closer scrutiny of the cockatoo in it's cage.. it will turn out to be.......

DEAD... mort... ceased to be... an EX cockatoo nailed to it's perch by Crump :31

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:24 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
Anyway....... enough of this "Evidence Shit"

We are all supposed to be tracking down........ HOLLY..... :31 :31

I kid you not.... "what if GZ was scratched by holly... doncha know..." :31 :31 :31

The Holly and the Ivy



Back to the bushes? What happened to the tree, dog poop stand, utility box, tree roots? So many choices...what about the obvious, TM sucker punched GZ, knocked him to the ground, got on top of him, beat his head into the cement...oh my, does that make too much sense? And, if GZ did fall into the bushes, where was TM while GZ was wrestling with the bushes? Standing there and laughing? We know he didn't run home for safety because...wait for it...TM had the right to be wherever he wanted!


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Joni wrote:
I don't want Z diagnosed as anything, except WHAT HE IS. I have no agenda ~ really. Looking for the truth and ONLY the truth.

I know he lies now ... and that makes it very difficult for me to know what really happened. I will wait for physical things, forensics. We all know THEY don't lie! Even with his first "explanation" of what happened, he brings legal knowledge - coming from a family where both Daddy and Mommy are into the "Law". She too worked in the Court system, I believe. He did grow up as a kind of "insider" in the law. AND he was taking courses about law too. Those things might make it very beneficial to him even when telling his first redition of the details of the killing. Things were really stacked in his favor. He knew all of this ~~
Daddy Ret. Judge, Mommy working in the Courts, had a gun, vehicle to stay in (if he chose), title of Captain of the N.W. (he was only "working"), etc. Trayvon knew none of this ... I wonder who Trayvon thought this "stalker" was?

Then it really IS a shame that he did not do well in law courses. That is surprising to me. He certainly had an edge over others. I know that from being the ex of a lawyer. I heard many many years of conversation about the law - and I asked plenty of questions myself and learned lots of interesting things. I would really think he had a slight edge over someone whose family owned say - a Garden Center.
But ~ he did poorly on his tests? :46

Bring ON this trial. :95

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If GZ had such an edge over others on the criminal justice system, why did he give multiple statements to LE without a lawyer? Isn't that criminal justice 101? Never give statements without the benefit of an attorney. A false assumption to think GZ had any insider knowledge of the law.

I worked in a court for several years, and I didn't have any "connections" just because I worked there. As a matter of fact, we were told never to use our positions to get out of a jam. I had to warn my kids, if they ever got stopped for a traffic violation, never to mention I worked in the court. No way did retired magistrate and a court clerk in VA have any connections to anyone in Florida.

Why is it so difficult to understand GZ struggled in school? Most people would have given up, but GZ continued to persevere. Why all the ridicule?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:21 pm 
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Back to the bushes? What happened to the tree, dog poop stand, utility box, tree roots? So many choices...what about the obvious, TM sucker punched GZ, knocked him to the ground, got on top of him, beat his head into the cement...oh my, does that make too much sense? And, if GZ did fall into the bushes, where was TM while GZ was wrestling with the bushes? Standing there and laughing? We know he didn't run home for safety because...wait for it...TM had the right to be wherever he wanted!

Doncha know GZ is obviously a foliagist pig!!
And clearly .... a "bushopath!!"
Another cousin of his has testified that when he was 5, he REFUSED to play doctors and nurses because he preferred plucking daises!! :13

And in this instance a charge of Felony Hedge Assault should be included.

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LiveLaughLuv wrote:
NOT RACE, BUT MENTAL ILLNESS: the phenotype that is George Zimmerman

http://themodernmedicineman.com/not-rac ... zimmerman/

Another forum posted the above article....eye opening, for sure and I have always stated, 'There's something wrong with George Zimmerman"!
Wrong in the way he processes info, wrong in the way his mentality processes info...just plain wrong in how he handled this situation and the others...

The article is really a good read...Don't know if Rumpie will agree... :98


I'm not "Rumpie," but I also disagree. This article is drivel. Obviously based on media “facts” rather than real evidence. I really have a lot of doubt about a “doctor” who bases his diagnosis on media sensationalism.


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LiveLaughLuv wrote:
I made what up?

There is nothing that shows TM had any DNA of Zbeast on him...one small laceration on his ring finger, left hand doesn't show he beat the crap out of anyone...

No DNA on his weapon either...you must look at the totality of the evidence presented so far...not cherry pick evidence like the defense is doing..

His medical records will be the kicker..when the state gets them all..not the three page report of a 'likely' broken nose...likely broken, wont' suffice...

He hunted TM down...he will pay for it...is my prediction...

He hunted, followed, stalked for a full 8 minutes that the public is aware of...he was the menacing figure, not Trayvon...there was this strange dude following...and when this goes to trial...if he's brave enough...or will he beg for a plea deal and mercy...as Trayvon begged him to not shoot...listen to that mortal, horrific wail...only one person was in fear....that was Trayvon...


You're right about the fact that only one person was in fear...and it was the person getting the holy crap beaten out of him...according to one witness "MMA style." The one crying out in fear and wanting help was the one with all the injuries. The person doing the beating definitely did not want interference. I don't need a voice analysis expert to tell me who was wailing for help. All I need is common sense.


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LiveLaughLuv wrote:
There were two voices...the one in mortal fear...was NOT Zbeast..

I made nothing up...I read the evidence and saw for myself...Zbeast is in trouble...just check the NEN call he place to his recreation...nothing fits...he's a liar and a bad one...

How is little man with weapon always so afraid and confused?

It's manipulation. he wants people to believe he was in genuine fear..If he was in fear, he should have stayed in his vehicle...Once he placed that call...his duty ended...hero complex, wanna be cop..kept him from standing down..Trayvon should not have been murdered, if he was fearful, stay in the safety of your vehicle...


Hero complex? I adore people who strive to be heroes. A "wanna be cop?" I daresay, every peace officer on duty today were at one time a "wanna be cop." What the Hell is wrong with that?

Trayvon was not murdered. His killing was a tragedy ...for 2 families, but it was not murder. Why should George have stayed in his vehicle? Was there a law he broke by getting out of his vehicle? Are all of us mandated by law to stay in our vehicles at all time? That is downright silly. That's like saying Trayvon should have stayed at Brandy's house, and he wouldn't have been killed. Or Trayvon shouldn't have gotten himself suspended from school, and he wouldn't have been killed. Downright silly.


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LiveLaughLuv wrote:
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I knew you just wanted someone to argue with...

but my position is just as strong as yours..

but in the end...

I think I will win...... :43


Sorry, but I have to disagree with you once again. Your position is not as strong as "Rumpie's". Rumpole is basing his arguments on the evidence released to the public by the Florida Sunshine laws. That is always going to be stronger than one based on media "spin."


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:50 pm 
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Joni wrote:

I wrote a long post ... don't see it.


At least you wont get infracted, timed out, or banned :24

And after this is over you can look back and see where you went wrong :31

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Lester is off the case; the Writ was granted.

http://www.5dca.org/Clerk/George%20Zimm ... 198.op.pdf




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That is one "I told you so" to me :21

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Rumpole wrote:
Lester is off the case; the Writ was granted.

http://www.5dca.org/Clerk/George%20Zimm ... 198.op.pdf


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Great news!!! At least I hope so, but at least someone else agreed with GZ, finally!!

I guess you won that part of the bet!!


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Yes. Who knows if the next Judge will be any better.. there is so much politicing and behind the scenes hidden agendas involved.

But..... it is a blow for common sense and the law... Lester should clearly have gone

He was so blatantly biased people questioned if he was trying to get off the case on purpose.

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Oh dear... I imagine a depression settling over the Lynch Mob...

An epic LOW to rival Isaac :31

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Rumpole wrote:
Lester is off the case; the Writ was granted.

http://www.5dca.org/Clerk/George%20Zimm ... 198.op.pdf




:26


That is one "I told you so" to me :21


Hallelujah!!!! I couldn't see it going any other way as Lester was extremely biased against George.


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R :27 good point. I wonder IF he was trying to get off this case?

Casey's first Judge, Strickland said "The truth and Ms. Anthony are strangers." Not good.

I do think they should keep their thoughts to themselves ... hmmmm unless they DO have a hidden agenda. :11


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State's 7th Supplemental Discovery - Summary

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Rel ... covery.pdf

Drawings by W1, W3, W6 and W18.
SCSO event reports and event details for 2/26 NEN and 911 calls
217 FDLE photos - Total Station CD
8 photos by Inv. Wright
Victim cell phone records
Zimmerman school records from Manassas, VA
FDLE report with analyst notes
W13 consent to search telephone

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Hmmm... no mention of any holly bushes or interviews with mystery Club house stalkers.. or GZ's 4 accomplices on the night?

And nothing further on the cockatoo... I can't wait to see that!

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Joni wrote:
R :27 good point. I wonder IF he was trying to get off this case?

Casey's first Judge, Strickland said "The truth and Ms. Anthony are strangers." Not good.

I do think they should keep their thoughts to themselves ... hmmmm unless they DO have a hidden agenda. :11


I wasn't trying to make that point... just saying that Lester's behaviour was BAD ENOUGH to imagine that.

Clearly he did not take the opportunity to go.. so it seems unlikely that that was his intent with his biased rulings and comments.... the fact is he simply WAS BIASED.

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