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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:40 am 
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I have just been reading at one of the HATE Zimmerman forums.

It is of course frustrating to read ravings from people so wilfully ignorant. No matter what evidence is presented they generally dismiss or deny if it is favourable to GZ, but latch on to the smallest discrepancy detail, despite it's insignificance to the case overall.

Not every tragedy has an evil person involved... to try and portray GZ and EVERYBODY associated with him as evil is simply wrong. To believe anything bad said about GZ, yet dismiss the numerous positive statements by almost everybody that has known him, is simply rampant prejudice.

It is not a simple dichotomy...
It does not have to be...... TM Good V GZ Evil
nor............................ TM Evil V GZ Good

It is one thing to disbelieve the GZ version of events, to dispute that version... but not when the evidence seen so far confirms, or at least does not contradict that version.

Of course people are free to propose some other version of events based on known facts.... but it needs to be based on some verifiable facts, and not merely a guess of what MIGHT have happened.

People seem to forget..... GZ is INNOCENT until proven guilty. The Western Justice system puts the BURDEN on the prosecution to present a case and PROVE IT beyond reasonable doubt. They can not just say... "We don't believe GZ, but nobody knows,,, but perhaps it happened this way......."


It is hard to fathom WHY people continue to post at forums where they are BULLIED?
At the very least they have to "bite their tongue" while those of the "opposing" view can say what they want about the case, including unsubstantiated derogatory remarks about people involved in the case. Whereas merely discussing factual information about someone DEEMED to be a "victim" will be penalised as "bashing"
Not "Bashing" anybody would be a better rule... provided you could discuss the FACTS.. both good and bad about all parties involved.
And it seems snide remarks about other posters are OK from one side only?
Why continue to post there?

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I’ve been reading there too. I’m keeping an open mind about the case…and am not on either “side”. Just trying to see what the evidence is. It’s quite disturbing to see such a double standard being applied to the members…depending on whose “side” they’re on.

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FOX News Channel’s Hannity to Present Exclusive Interview with George Zimmerman
July 18, 2012 12:14 PM ET

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FOX News Channel’s (FNC) Sean Hannity has secured the first interview with George Zimmerman, the suspect accused of killing Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, which will be presented exclusively during Hannity tonight at 9PM/ET for the entire hour.

Zimmerman will open up about what happened the night of Trayvon Martin’s death and his experience in the aftermath of the fatal shooting. Additionally, Zimmerman’s defense attorney Mark O’Mara will answer questions regarding his client’s case and rumors circulating about the bail donations and hidden money.

Currently averaging more than 2.1 million viewers each night, Hannity is the second most watched show in cable news, beating his cable news competitors combined.

http://money.msn.com/business-news/arti ... EDIA&isub=

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The Hannity interview will not air for another 6 hours... but the Lynch mob have ALREADY pronounced it to be all LIES! :31

Wilfully Ignorant just doesn't cover it!! :45

I wondered if it was a good idea for GZ to be talking? But I guess it's a chance to get some of his story out there without cross-examination.

And...... if just the thought of it upsets the Lynch Mob... it MUST be a good idea. :31

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Hannity mentioning tonight's interview on his radio show:

- He never said he would pay for GZ's legal fees.

- GZ promised to give him an interview when he got out, and that this interview is GZ keeping his promise.

- There are some new revelations in his interview with GZ tonight.

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Maltese Mama wrote:

I’ve been reading there too. I’m keeping an open mind about the case…and am not on either “side”. Just trying to see what the evidence is. It’s quite disturbing to see such a double standard being applied to the members…depending on whose “side” they’re on.

I've been too skeeeeeerd to read there lately. :47


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I've been too skeeeeeerd to read there lately. :47


Aw... don't be skeeeeerd, seeing eye..... if you just read they can't get you :42

But...... best reply what you REALLY want to say here at RT :24

If you don't let yourself get frustrated by the wilfully ignorant posts.....It is actually a laugh a minute at times :31

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Preview of Hannity interview on "The Five"

The clip shown was GZ again expressing his sympathy and the sorrow he feels for TM's family.

He looked and sounded very sincere to me.

I just KNOW it will infuriate the Lynch Mob...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:04 pm 
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BUT WAIT!

There's more......

From Baez Facebook.....
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Folks I will be on Sean Hanity tomorrow night to clear up all of the Zimmerman rumors. Thanks Jose

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Hannity's Interview with George Zimmerman - Sneak Peek


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:18 pm 
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I have seen people questioning whether this GZ comment of sympathy constitutes "Indirect contact" with TM's Family... which is a violation of his Bond conditions?

Lester’s Order setting Bail
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I assume it is not a violation... O'Mara would not be that stupid.

And I see some research from a Treeper:

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July 18, 2012 at 7:09 pm

Ok, this is what I found with a google search…
“If the speech does not request or direct a third party to contact you vicariously, and or request a third party to forward any communication to you, there is no indirect contact. Essentially, the restrained party is not prevented from communicating about you, but rather communicating with you. Indirect contact means asking a third party to contact you.” As long as GZ does not ask Hannity or anyone to contact the family on his behalf it seems that it does not violate the bond.

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George Zimmerman Legal Defence Site.

http://gzlegalcase.com/

Includes a link to donate to the Defence Fund
http://www.gzdefensefund.com/

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TheRealGeorgeZimmerman.com

I thank each and every one of you for your support, whether through your hard-earned money, words of encouragement, or most importantly through prayer

http://therealgeorgezimmerman.com/

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Lot of new followers because of #GeorgeZimmerman criticism, they’ll probably hate me once realize I still think he legally defended himself.

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Exclusive: George Zimmerman breaks silence on 'Hannity' (7-18-12)
Special Guests: George Zimmerman, Mark O'Mara

Videos (6 parts)
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/index.html

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http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/2 ... ce-hannity

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More of Hannity interview with George Zimmerman Tomorrow night

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George Zimmerman on Hannity,
By Jeralyn, Section Crime in the News
Posted on Wed Jul 18, 2012 at 09:30:25 PM EST

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The bottom line to me: He said nothing that helps the state's case or provides impeachment fodder. And there will be a Stand Your Ground argument as well as general self-defense.

Most lawyers would not subject a client who is facing murder charges to a national interview. That O'Mara allowed it, and was present for it, suggests that both are comfortable with his version of events. Now it's up to the state to disprove his version, beyond a reasonable doubt.

I would imagine many of the witnesses -- both police and neighbors who heard or saw some of the events-- will see this interview. I have no idea whether the interview will affect their perceptions.

As to potential jurors and the public, while the interview may not convince anyone he's innocent, it could go a long way towards leveling the playing field, and reducing the presumption of guilt created by the media and Martin family representatives. That would be a good thing.


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Update: A lot of people are asking why Zimmerman did this interview. I have no idea. But I think it's interesting that Zimmerman's friends and family (as opposed to his legal team) have resurrected his website, The Real George Zimmerman.com. On the "about" page, it states the goals of his legal team's website and says that site has fallen short in some respects. It intends to take up the slack.

I can't imagine O'Mara is happy about the relaunch of this website. He needs to be in control of the message. Zimmerman should let his lawyer, not his family, speak for him while he has criminal charges pending.

Is the Zimmerman family at odds with O'Mara's defense stategy? (Remember when they used Mark NeJame to get their point of view out? O'Mara was concerned even before then that Zimmerman's family might provide "exclusives" to the media.) Was the interview with Hannity the family's (including brother-in-law's) idea? Did O'Mara counsel against it but go along? I have no idea, but if so, it seems to me that at some point, O'Mara is is going to put his foot down and insist on being the sole mouthpiece for Zimmerman, or ask to get out of the case.


http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/7/18/223025/805

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The Interview Uploaded to Youtube

George Zimmerman on Hannity (FULL)
(Day 1: 7-18-12)


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The man who sued Zimmerman about abuse on the job said ...
"He was SO GOOD ... at a hearing he had ME believing these things never happened."
I don't know what to think about that statement - and ability?
It does - scare me. Z. comes off very convincing and honest.
Is he?


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I think it was a big mistake for George to say in his interview with Hannity that his shooting Trayvon was "in God's plan". I don't think the vast majority of folks will know what he means by that and so it will incite a lot of people who think George was saying, "It was God's plan to have me kill Trayvon that night".

That's not what George means at all if he means what I think he means by that statement.

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