I remember Gilbreth say, in the bond hearing, the state has no proof or witnesses as to what happened after GZ got out of the car. They have nothing to challenge GZ's version of events.

That was the problem with the state's case then and still is.

I didn't catch that -- I hope MOM and the jury did!

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Last edited by SheStone on Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Now it's the "Zimmerman didn't bother to ask" theory.

Because all the NHW guidelines say, "be sure to try to talk to everyone you believe is suspicious".

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WTG on fixing that, SheStone!

You had it done before I got it open to fix. Give you a little knowledge and you turn into a dangerous thing, huh? (joking!)

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This show would be a lot funnier if Corey herself did the closing Statement....

I think we should all message and demand that Corey herself do the encore

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3:50 p.m.
While pausing points of the video De la Rionda speaks.

He points out a sprinkler box and asks if that could’ve caused some of the injury.

De la Rionda points out where Zimmerman demonstrated where his firearm was.

He says another version Zimmerman said was the he grabbed the victims arm and move it for a better shot.

De la Rionda says Zimmerman tried to justify to police he was searching the victim for something in his hand that would be a weapon.

He plays more of the video.

He says there is a video from the clubhouse that definitely shows a car in the area of the mailboxes where Rachel Jeantel said the victim was.

De la Rionda asks if Good said he heard the victim say anything.

He plays the interview taken at the Sanford Police Department.

3:44 p.m.
De la Rionda sarcastically says standing in the grass at RTL [Retreat at Twin Lakes] is a crime.

He plays more of the interview and says Zimmerman named a street and lied about not knowing the street names to cover-up for killing a young boy.

He plays more of the walk-through.

De la Rionda points out again the street names.

He plays more of the video.

De la Rionda says Zimmerman tried to redirect the attention of the officers in the walk-through to the back of the house despite an address on the front.

He continues playing the interview.

3:37 p.m.
De la Rionda repeats Zimmerman caught himself in mid-sentence.

He says Zimmerman had police jargon down to try and impress them. He points out the use of the word suspect.

He shows more quotes from the statements.

He plays the walk-through interview.

3:33 p.m.
De la Rionda asks why Zimmerman holstered his gun if he wasn’t sure he shot the victim. He says it was more police jargon to convince the police he wasn’t intending to shoot Martin.

De la Rionda plays more of the interview.

He points out the statement “they always come around nighttime.”

He says somehow Zimmerman became suspicious of a 17-year-old kid wearing a hoodie.

De la Rionda plays more of the interview.

He says Zimmerman kept his assumption that Martin was a criminal and would be upset that he called the police.

He says Zimmerman acknowledged he walked back toward Martin, but caught himself saying it and changed to Martin walking toward him.

De la Rionda says Zimmerman had to explain why the kid got the upperhand. He asks if Zimmerman was going for his phone or the gun.

He shows the Google map with markings Zimmerman made of what happened where.

De la Rionda shows the photos of Zimmerman taken at the police station.

He circled Zimmerman’s shoes in one of the photos. He says there is grass on top of his shoes that might indicate he was on top of the victim.

He asks where the scrapes or scratch marks might be on the back of Zimmerman’s jacket.

De la Rionda asks why Zimmerman’s hands weren’t injured.

He shows a PowerPoint slide with quotes from Zimmerman’s statement.

3:24 p.m.
De la Rionda says the defendant knew there would be no videotaping of the incident.

He plays more of the interview.

He says Zimmerman said he didn’t know the street name and said Martin circled his car. He says Zimmerman was either truthful about Martin circling the car or lied about it as another explanation that he had to confront Martin.

De la Rionda plays more of the recording.

He points out that Zimmerman said it was where he walks his dog, but doesn’t know the name of the street. He points out Zimmerman said Martin came out of the bushes.

He says Zimmerman catches himself saying it.

He says Zimmerman was wandering even though someone circled his car.

He has to convince the police he was just walking and the victim came out of nowhere.

O’Mara objects to improper presentation of the case law.

Judge Nelson tells the jury she will instruct them of the law.

“He’s trying to convince the police he hadn’t done anything wrong,” De la Rionda continues.

He says Zimmerman was escalating the description of the violence and he says Martin must’ve had 10 arms.

He plays more of the interview.

De la Rionda says Zimmerman’s statement that Martin held his hand over his face and also went for the gun doesn’t make sense.

De la Rionda has the court deputy check the gun.

He shows it to the jury.

He demonstrates where Zimmerman says he had the gun and asks how the victim saw it in the darkness.

"Is it just another lie that he tells," he asks.

He plays more of the interview.

3:15 p.m.
De la Rionda points out the abrasions. He says testimony said he was right-handed.

He says one person was shot to death and the other lies.

He says the defendant brought a gun to a struggle and made sure the victim wouldn’t get away.

He says Martin was being followed by Zimmerman and had the right to defend himself.

He says the defendant gave various interviews.

He plays a portion of the interview with Investigator Singleton.

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GZ shaking his head as Bernie is "skipping and singing la-la-la"

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Did you see Bernie skipping? I was hoping he would keep going...I wanted the ahole to get away...

New TV show to replace Dancing with the Stars.

Grasping for Straws with BDLR

Exactly, mbtb. Not a thing has changed since SPD determined not enough evidence to charge with anything, plenty of evidence of self defense; except for political and greed-for-civil-suit-$$ pressures.

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Is talking in "police jargon" evidence of Murder 2? If it does, I'm in real trouble because I call a spade a spade....or a suspect a suspect.

Bear in mind: at the time, Zimmerman didn't know Martin was dead. For all Zimmerman knew, Zimmerman was taken into custody for suspicion of assaulting Zimmerman. So, "suspect" would have been an appropriate term.

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Here is the humping of the doll while yelling.

Oh, my...Bernie is playing with the Guy's doll!

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I hope MOM can play the rest of the Hannity interview.

Bernie, the dummy didn't work yesterday and it won't change today.