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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:07 pm 
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Seriously -- did anyone expect BDLR's closing to be this bad? We knew he'd lie, mischaracterize, mislead, twist, spin... but still not make a point??


FOX 35 hoping Bernie will come back strong and tie it all together. What exactly can he tie together? He has nothing but loose ends, zero proof of anything. I think what we're seeing is it. Guy will come in and basically repeat his opening. It's great MOM has til tomorrow to present his closing.


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liesel wrote:
Hi, MJW! Always great to see you here and thanks for the cite. :)


Thank you so much, liesel! I meant to thank you for your previous, very gracious comment, but the thread was locked.


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FOX 35 hoping Bernie will come back strong and tie it all together. What exactly can he tie together? He has nothing but loose ends, zero proof of anything. I think what we're seeing is it. Guy will come in and basically repeat his opening. It's great MOM has til tomorrow to present his closing.

Agreed, he has nothing. And now MOM knows exactly how BDLR presented that nothing.

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MJW wrote:

Thank you so much, liesel! I meant to thank you for your previous, very gracious comment, but the thread was locked.

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liesel wrote:
Seriously -- did anyone expect BDLR's closing to be this bad? We knew he'd lie, mischaracterize, mislead, twist, spin... but still not make a point??


You know it is bad when he has to treat Mr. Martin's friend as such a compelling witness. This same person would never make it to a witness stand in any other case due to her obvious lies.

They built their whole case around a concocted story and now the script is raveling.


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They're back.

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Bernie will be pulling out the big stop watch...tell the jury, your are getting sleepy, very sleepy. When I snap my fingers, you will think I presented a case that proved 2nd degree murder.


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flareon wrote:

You know it is bad when he has to treat Mr. Martin's friend as such a compelling witness. This same person would never make it to a witness stand in any other case due to her obvious lies.

They built their whole case around a concocted story and now the script is raveling.

There you are, flareon! Hey, search party, you can come back now, flareon made it back... ;)

Yes - she said nothing that wasn't released to the public and garbled up things she should have known had she been telling the truth. I agree with those that suspect she was egging on TM™ to fight.

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De la Rionda resumes his closing argument. He shows a photo of the left hand of Martin.

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flgirl543 wrote:
Bernie will be pulling out the big stop watch...tell the jury, you are getting sleepy, very sleepy. When I snap my fingers, you will think I presented a case that prove 2nd degree murder.

:Gslap :lol :lol

It's his only hope!

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If he had know there was no video, he also would have know there was no audio recording


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Back to the false dilemma, in re: Zimmerman either lying about Martin circling Zimmerman's car, or else about actually being in fear (at time of use of deadly force)

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liesel wrote:
There you are, flareon! Hey, search party, you can come back now, flareon made it back... ;)

Yes - she said nothing that wasn't released to the public and garbled up things she should have known had she been telling the truth. I agree with those that suspect she was egging on TM™ to fight.


Good to see you too. I'm going to miss the morning arguments tomorrow too.

That is what has always bothered me about her. Her story didn't manifest itself until after the 911 tapes were released and her behavior that night doesn't even come close to the way a normal person would behave after hearing what she says she heard. I'm hoping Mr. O'Mara makes a point of this too.


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Back to the false dilemma, in re: Zimmerman either lying about Martin circling Zimmerman's car, or else about actually being in fear (at time of use of deadly force)


Yes he didn't get out of the car when TM was around or circling his truck. He waited until TM had run off and the NEN operator asked which way TM went.


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flareon wrote:

Good to see you too. I'm going to miss the morning arguments tomorrow too.

That is what has always bothered me about her. Her story didn't manifest itself until after the 911 tapes were released and her behavior that night doesn't even come close to the way a normal person would behave after hearing what she says she heard. I'm hoping Mr. O'Mara makes a point of this too.

Oh, I am so sorry! Not just cos you won't be part of the discussion then, but because of you missing MOM live. I am sooooooooooo looking forward to MOM's closing.

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