Hi, mbtb! Glad you made it! I'm sorry, I don't remember which specific instruction, but that's what it was about.

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Thanks my friend...what the state is attempting is a sign of desperation.

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The prosecution's entire CASE (and I use that term very loosely) was a confused mess.

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Wow, you catch up much more quickly than I can, taurus! That's it in a nutshell. Glad you made it.

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Sybrinia and Tracy should be tried for child abuse...they ignored the existance of Trayvon for years...shame on them.

Freddy and the Leatherheads have lost their minds. Freddy told them Murder 3 / Chile abuse would be included.

Thanks for looking that up, Chip! And thanks for the s Chip and everyone!

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I sense big CYA attempts by Debbie.... keeps asking Geoge to confirm in person that he agrees..... I don't think it will help her if 5DCA get involved

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You say that like it was going to be any other way...

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Certainly Neglect at the time TM attacked George... they SHOULD be responsible for that criminal act as parents responsible for a "child" declared a danger to himself and others.

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Nelson: Mr. Zimmerman, are these instructions acceptable to you?

George: No you azzhole effin punk, only what you did not overrule us on.

And leaving him wandering the streets in a strange area... sadly, at 17 they're allowed to do it.

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1:12 p.m.
Mantei says the only question is for the justifiable defense portion and getting it as to how West wanted it.

West suggests striking a phrase.

Judge Nelson and the state agree.

West says there are a couple of occasions where words should be singular.

Judge Nelson says she is looking for substantive changes.

She asks to see the revised verdict form.

Judge Nelson addresses Zimmerman.

He confirms he has gone over the jury instructions and finds them agreeable.

Court is in recess until 1:35 p.m.

1:05 p.m.
Mantei resumes arguments for the state.

He cites a case he says shows the intentional act of the shooting.

West begins arguing for the defense.

Judge Nelson says she doesn’t think the evidence supports a charge for third degree felony defense.

She asks to finalize the verdict form.

Mantei asks which part of shooting a child isn't intentional.

Judge Nelson says she doesn’t think the evidence supports it and if she is unsure then she won’t instruct the jury for it.

She asks about the rest of the jury instructions.

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The best laughs today have come from Mini-Me. Such as his Bernie-esque petulance in response to Nelson denying the inclusion of Felony Third Degree Murder (Child Abuse): "Just to clarify, your honor: what part of a fatal gun shot isn't child abuse?" (paraphrased)

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I nominate this post for a post of the day award!

Glad you made it, CinnamonToast!

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Oh, I am so looking forward to you quoting them in the daft thread! I hope you're saving some of the worst ones before they get modified or deleted.

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Nasty Nat on HLN saying West better watch out being disrespectful to the judge in front of the jury. Didn't say anything about 3rd degree felony being thrown out.

So now there is 2nd degree murder and manslaughter only? West again did excellent.

Sorry it took so long to reply had to make lunch for the kiddo. The test went alright, I have been spending too much time on the trial and not enough in books.
I can see that the grass may not be greener. I am just frustrated with this and what the implications are concerning mob rule mentality in getting people charged.
I guess that I just feel impotent to change anything. I think that this starts with a lack of a clear objective. Is it GZ's freedom? The BGI? The Media? Or the people in power that allowed this to occur? And once you pick a foe what is the next course of action?

Sorry, this should probably be moved to the discussion thread not the trial one.

You're right, no doubt.

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