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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:58 pm 
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So let me get this straight. If Donnellly hadn't heard the pyscho saying it was a boy's voice on the tape he would have thought it was Trayvon screaming instead of George? Umm, OK.


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liesel wrote:
Ok, who's doing the verdict pool? (joking)



We have an older verdict poll... I just bumped it (So it shows near top of "view new posts"

POLL: Zimerman verdict
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:00 pm 
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4:51 p.m.
Judge Nelson proceeds with the motion for sanctions regarding Mr. Donnelly.

Mantei says he previously indicated to the court the witness was present in court. He says he has since confirmed it. He says the witness was present on the 25th and 26th of June.

He says since he sat through two days of testimony of the crime scene tech and Surdyka’s and went home and listened to the recording.

Mantei says they learned yesterday Good met with defense counsel and Schumaker to adjust the animation.

Bertalan told the court she watched the trial, including the testimony of the defendant’s uncle.

Mantei says Donnelly took it upon himself to turn him from a non-witness into a witness. He says Good was certainly in contact with and discusses a defense exhibit in violation of the rules of sequestration.

He says relevant case law says what should be done to enforce the rule.

4:45 p.m.
Judge Nelson dismisses the jury for the evening. She tells them they anticipate closing statements Thursday and will have them back at 10 a.m.

4:43 p.m.
O’Mara says he would get his instructions to the state tonight.

O’Mara says he would need 30 minutes for the jury instruction argument.

Judge Nelson proposes a schedule for closing arguments.

Mantei says he is trying to check now if the witness is available.

Judge Nelson says she will excuse the jury and then they will begin on the Donnelly issue.

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mung wrote:
So let me get this straight. If Donnellly hadn't heard the pyscho saying it was a boy's voice on the tape he would have thought it was Trayvon screaming instead of George? Umm, OK.

Kind of like the state arguing reasonable doubt to avoid JOA, right? :Gslap

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Why is O'Mara conceding that a sequestration violation occurred, if Donnelley was not under subpoena on the days he was in court?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:07 pm 
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Before testimony continued, Judge Debra Nelson gave her rulings on two issues that kept court going extra long the Tuesday.

She ruled the animation will not be admissible as evidence, but can be used as a demonstration.

Mantei says there is no way to un-ring the bell but to give instruction to the jury.

He says the cumulative nature of the issues renews the state’s request to court to strike Donnelly’s testimony and instruct the jury.

O’Mara begins argument.

O’Mara says they are opening the door to potential violations with Dr. Bao.

Judge Nelson says the court is very concerned about three possible violations and the possibility of another person not called to testify violating the rule.

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So flat out lying by state and their witnesses is ok, but someone not called may have been in court necessitates investigation??


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So is the walk through entered into evidence for the jury to watch???? Anyone know???

Defense can handle the third witness, undercover cop from 2005.

The state's first two rebuttal witnesses are gone.


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chipbennett wrote:
Why is O'Mara conceding that a sequestration violation occurred, if Donnelley was not under subpoena on the days he was in court?


Apparently he was on the witness list.


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O’Mara says Good and Schumaker never spoke.

O’Mara says he spoke to Good, showed him the animation and then went to talk to his expert.

O’Mara says Selene Bahadoor changed her testimony too.

Judge Nelson says this is related to the issue of Donnelly.

O’Mara says he was here for day 2 and part of day 3. He heard from Wendy Dorival, O’Brien, Bahadoor, Ramaindo, and Smith.

On the second day, he heard from Surdyka, but then West noticed him in the courtroom and had him leave.

O’Mara says Donnelly didn’t change his testimony, but added to it by listening to the recording.

O’Mara says the testimony he heard might’ve prompted to make the decision to listen to it.

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I believe the sequestered un-named person may have been Crump?


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I think Nelson just revealed security detail.... 1st rows both sides are "buffer rows"... with people with "LE capability" I assume that means armed??

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So what would David Lee have testified to?

Anybody got a clue?

A guess?


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Wow State motion for sanctions... DENIED!! :eek

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I missed it since I was gone about the three rebuttal witnesses. I see how it turned out on the first two, but is the third going to be allowed to testify or not? Or has that not been decided?

If someone could please let me know. Thank you.


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