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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:41 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
Now really looking petty and silly.... the old Traybot talking point of George in altercation a bar years ago.

:Gslap :Gslap

Same as it ever was...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:44 pm 
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OMara just asked what I was questioning; how he gets witnesses for tomorrow if he does not know he needs them.


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Judge Nelson says she doesn’t think it’s allowed and will sustain the objection.

Mantei says the website advertisement was the purpose of him.

O’Mara says there similar objections to the next witness.

Mantei says the next witness is David Lee.

After talking with De la Rionda, Mantei says they will not call Lee.

O'Mara says he objects to the third witness too.

The witness for Thursday is Arthur Fleischmann. Mantei says he is the agent with ATF there when Zimmerman was arrested. He says the agent would offer a different perspective on Zimmerman's ability to fight.

O'Mara says it is a prior bad act the state is trying to get in and more facts of the case are needed. He says in 2005 the agents were undercover at a UCF party and had taken a friend out. O'Mara says Zimmerman went outside to ask what was going on and they arrested him. He says he never heard Zimmerman attacked, but was arrested for battery on a law enforcement officer. He says the charge was dropped to a misdeaeanor and went to pre-trial diversion.

O'Mara says it bears no probative value because it was so long ago and was a non-event.

He says if the state brings in this prior bad act, there are 30 witnesses that can counter.

Judge Nelson says she doesn't like the 'if you do this, I'm doing that" statements.

Judge Nelson says there can be argument if the witness is available.

She says they will take the issue up Thursday. She would like to inform the jury as to where the case is going. Closing arguments should start tomorrow.

The state says they expect to take three hours. The defense says three hours is enough.

O'Mara says he would like an addition in the jury instructions that would slightly modify the self-defense instruction.

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Nelson clearly doesn't want to rule on the admissibility of the ATF arrest. She's trying to punt it based on the lack of availability of the witness to testify.

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Who else thinks it's wrong that they're doing Donnelly before finishing the Richardson hearing against BDLR? Show of hands? :46

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OMara just asked what I was questioning; how he gets witnesses for tomorrow if he does not know he needs them.

Oh, you know, like the bail revocation hearing, do it on the fly. :Gslap

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Who else thinks it's wrong that they're doing Donnelly before finishing the Richardson hearing against BDLR? Show of hands? :46

Donnelly is testimony to be excluded in the worst-case-scenario.
Bernie is sanctions.


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liesel wrote:
Who else thinks it's wrong that they're doing Donnelly before finishing the Richardson hearing against BDLR? Show of hands? :46

kbp wrote:
Donnelly is testimony to be excluded in the worst-case-scenario.
Bernie is sanctions.

It makes sense when you write it... but I think BDLR should have been excluded too! :)

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According to Hornsby, can't use media evidence, so where are they getting photos?

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liesel wrote:
According to Hornsby, can't use media evidence, so where are they getting photos?


I think Donnelley's presence in the courtroom on 25-26 June is uncontested.

The defense will likely just counter with the fact that Donnelley was not under subpoena, and therefore not subject to the sequestration order, until 4 July.

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The irony is RICH... the devious lying witnesses who SHOULD be excluding are watching this puffed up crap from Weasel


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Why is Mini-Me allowed to bring in John Good or other allegations when the written motion only references alleged sequestration violation of Donnelley?

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Ok, who's doing the verdict pool? (joking)

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chipbennett wrote:
Why is Mini-Me allowed to bring in John Good or other allegations when the written motion only references alleged sequestration violation of Donnelley?


Because he is a prosecutor. Of some sort.


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chipbennett wrote:

I think Donnelley's presence in the courtroom on 25-26 June is uncontested.

The defense will likely just counter with the fact that Donnelley was not under subpoena, and therefore not subject to the sequestration order, until 4 July.

Yeah, what's wrong with the defense? Don't they know they're supposed to be sleazy? How could they not contest it? Oh... ethics... something we haven't seen much of from the state.

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