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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:59 pm 
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How are these questions not covered by attorney-client privilege? How can Nelson inquire of Zimmerman about these matters at this time?

Her treatment of West is beyond the pale, is inappropriate, and she gives no reason for over-ruling West?

She's entitled to ask (at the close of the defense case!) because it could be and has been an appellate issue with convicts claiming they wanted to testify. But yes, I agree very strongly that she was abusive to West and had no right to overrule his objection.

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Nelson:...you wish to testify?

George: azzhole f***** punk


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chipbennett wrote:
How are these questions not covered by attorney-client privilege? How can Nelson inquire of Zimmerman about these matters at this time?

Her treatment of West is beyond the pale, is inappropriate, and she gives no reason for over-ruling West?
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She's entitled to ask (at the close of the defense case!) because it could be and has been an appellate issue with convicts claiming they wanted to testify. But yes, I agree very strongly that she was abusive to West and had no right to overrule his objection.


That's my point: the defense is in the middle of presenting their case. The question is untimely.

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chipbennett wrote:
How are these questions not covered by attorney-client privilege? How can Nelson inquire of Zimmerman about these matters at this time?

Her treatment of West is beyond the pale, is inappropriate, and she gives no reason for over-ruling West?

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'cause she said so!

:Gslap

Again, what kbp said!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:03 pm 
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chipbennett wrote:

That's my point: the defense is in the middle of presenting their case. The question is untimely.

Yes, agreed. Maybe she intends to bully the defense into closing today? And expects to go straight into state's case without break, meaning without jurors leaving the room, so decided to ask prematurely?

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Point out it was plural


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kbp wrote:
Nelson:...you wish to testify?

George: azzhole f***** punk

:Gslap You read his mind, no doubt. And mine too!

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2:00 p.m.
Root retakes the stand and the jury is reseated. O'Mara resumes questioning.

1:52 p.m.
O’Mara submits a declaration from the city of Sanford for evidence.

The next exhibit is a letter documenting the existence of Zimmerman’s concealed weapons permit.

The last one is the CD and report for the sixth call Zimmerman made to law enforcement.

A layout of the crime scene is also submitted.

O’Mara says he will finish with the current witness and have two more short ones.

Judge Nelson checks with Zimmerman about if he will testify in the case.

He is sworn in.

West objects to the question of if Zimmerman wants to testify.

Zimmerman says not at this time.

West asks for an opportunity to speak and the case hasn’t concluded yet.

Zimmerman says the end of the day might be enough.

West objects to the court inquiring with Zimmerman about if he will testify.

Judge Nelson says his objection is overruled. She will give him more time before deciding.

O’Mara asks to approach on an unrelated matter.

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H/T to someone at CTH: DOJ-CRS actively and financially assisted pro-Trayvon protests prior to Zimmerman's arrest

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March 25 – 27, 2012, CRS spent $674.14 upon being “deployed to Sanford, FL to work marches, demonstrations, and rallies related to the shooting and death of an African-American teen by a neighborhood watch captain.”

March 25 – 28, 2012, CRS spent $1,142.84 “in Sanford, FL to work marches, demonstrations, and rallies related to the shooting and death of an African-American teen by a neighborhood watch captain.”

March 30 – April 1, 2012, CRS spent $892.55 in Sanford, FL “to provide support for protest deployment in Florida.”

March 30 – April 1, 2012, CRS spent an additional $751.60 in Sanford, FL “to provide technical assistance to the City of Sanford, event organizers, and law enforcement agencies for the march and rally on March 31.”

April 3 – 12, 2012, CRS spent $1,307.40 in Sanford, FL “to provide technical assistance, conciliation, and onsite mediation during demonstrations planned in Sanford.”

April 11-12, 2012, CRS spent $552.35 in Sanford, FL “to provide technical assistance for the preparation of possible marches and rallies related to the fatal shooting of a 17 year old African American male.” – expenses for employees to travel, eat, sleep?

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Lunchtime chit chat... Bernie to Nelson: find out if George will testify, I really, realllly need him.


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chipbennett wrote:

H/T to LS:

More here from Daily Caller.

Docs: Justice Department facilitated anti-Zimmerman protests

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/10/doj-p ... -protests/

and Right Scoop

http://therightscoop.com/foia-documents ... n-florida/


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Chip's lunchtime comment reminded me how I keep thinking that TrayDad always shows confidence and laughs like he is certain where this trial is headed.


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chipbennett wrote:

Words fail me; I can't express how appalling and disgusting that is, imo.

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Root just rooted the State's case: "[based on the situation] I do not believe that Zimmerman had any other option [than to use deadly force in self-defense]."

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Thanks, kbp, good to know other outlets are on this -- hopefully action will be taken.

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kbp wrote:
Lunchtime chit chat... Bernie to Nelson: find out if George will testify, I really, realllly need him.

The way she acts, I'd believe it.

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Cos he's just that good for defense:


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2:21 p.m.
O’Mara asks if Root took on the case for the notoriety of it.

Root says no. He says the same type of negative comes from the case as the positive coverage.

Root says he has never been cross examined by a prosecutor before and normally sits on the opposite side.

Root says the primary elements are the event as it was unfolding and the perception the individual had at the moment of the use of force.

He says the keychain flashlight helped him create in his mind where the event possibly started.

Root says a variety of things happens after a nose strike: tearing of the eyes, bleeding which can have an effect on the ability to breath, plus the stunning effect.

O’Mara says he will do foundation questions in order to ask a question about a punch being an effective first blow.

Root says he did kickboxing.

He says getting the first shot can let the other person know you’re serious and can be devastating.

It can also set the rhythm of the fight.

O'Mara shows an enlarged picture of Zimmerman with a bloody nose.

2:05 p.m.
O’Mara asks about the non-emergency call and the expletives Zimmerman said.

Root says he has heard people use them in his experience as a law enforcement officer. He says his interpretation of the comments was in general that “they always get away.”

Root says he didn’t think there was ill-will. He didn’t initially hear the “[expletive] punks” comment and had to re-listen for it.

West asks about Guy’s questions about a responsible gun owner.

Root says there was nothing in Zimmerman’s use of the firearm as reckless.

Guy objects based on a motion already heard.

The attorneys approach for a sidebar.

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