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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:04 pm 
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Judge says will give ruling at 8 a.m.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:05 pm 
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Yes! Fighting! Trying to get it in. Give it the good fight, West! (pun intended; maybe not actuated.)

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:06 pm 
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8:03 p.m.
Mantei says Dr. Di Maio also said it was possible Trayvon could’ve been pulling back.

He says any witness that could’ve used this as demonstrative already testified and didn’t need it.

Mantei says Schumaker’s assumptions are not accurate and built into the animation, which he says points out the frailty of the exhibit.

The lights went out, which Judge Nelson says they automatically do.

Judge Nelson says she’ll rule on it at 8 a.m.

She says the next issue is Mr. Conner’s testimony.

Judge Nelson says if it has to do with Martin’s phone she can look at the information intended to be introduced and she can make a determination.

West says there needs to be a proffer.

Judge Nelson says she only needs to know he found information and the procedure he found it is not a factor.

She asks to see the evidence that would be submitted through Mr. Conner.

West says the issue is ongoing because of the way discovery went on.

7:58 p.m.
Judge Nelson says she doesn’t see where it will assist an expert in testifying.

O’Mara says it will assist the jury.

Judge Nelson says the animation is more than a timeline.

Judge Nelson says the animation that could go back to the jury room give a certain weight to it.

She asks for case law.

O’Mara says he relies on Pierce and the determination is that it is substantially similar it is admissible.

Judge Nelson says in the Pierce case the computer animation exhibit would be a demonstrative exhibit only.

She cites more of the case.

She says she understands both arguments and she will read the case law.

Mantei says he has some issues.

He says Schumaker never mentioned Dr. Roa. He says the timeline the state presented was based on testimony only, but none of the animation is in testimony except for Lauer's 911 call.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:08 pm 
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I'd trade 3 or 4 animations for 1 fight text any day!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:11 pm 
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I hadn't heard about that one, half brother texting asking for fighting lessons from TM™.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:13 pm 
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Thank you, Guy! I have always wondered if I make people bleed when I debate them with words... now I know it's possible.

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And who among us hasn't considered TM™ a true wordsmith?

Ok, not ChipBennett level of debating skill, but more of a poet, maybe?

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West says other exhibits relate to a gun. He says the crux of the issue is the messages about fighting.

He says pictures were retrieved from Martin’s phone showing a hand wrapped around a firearm.

He says Martin had several conversations with several people trying to acquire a firearm.

John Guy says they are back where they started with a motion filed earlier. He says they wouldn’t help the jury and they are reputation evidence and there is an authentication issue.

“It could be a verbal fight, a play fight or a slap fight,” Guy says.

Guy says his objection is that it is speculation as to what any of it means and there is no context and is completely misleading and shouldn’t be allowed.

8:07 p.m.
West mentions text messages from Martin’s found about a firearm.

He says the fighting issue is at issue and text messages of Martin fighting, losing a round, bloodied a guy’s nose and another text with a girlfriend explained the fight.

West mentions a Facebook post from Martin’s half-brother asking when he would teach him how to fight.

West says a hidden file in Martin’s phone was only password accessible.

He says Conner’s testimony would explain how he accessed the phone and show only Martin could have created the texts.

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Nelson is tired now, looking at a lonnnnng evening addressing PRE-trial issues she, herself, built up.

Just skip the required formal issues they must address and get the testimony entered on the record.


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Looks like George needs a potty break... poor guy.

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West is taking his sweet time!


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West says he would like to proffer Conner’s testimony to put the texts in context.

Judge Nelson she would like it kept to just where he found the messages.

West says he thinks his qualifications are important.

She says she can read his CV.

West says Guy misses the argument. He says the evidence relates directly to the physical capabilities of Martin and his knowledge of fighting.

Judge Nelson says Conner will not testify about that.

She says she wants to hear the limited proffer.

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No objections yet to delay the testimony?


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Po' George has to get approval to use the restroom. I'd be tempted to just... never mind.


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GZ came back after waiving presence and being excused by judge for the evening? Or am I that loopy for spending so much of my day on this trial?

(I have the absolute best husband in the world. As I often say irl, if you ladies had any idea how spoiled I am, even beyond spending all of this time on this case, you'd smack your husbands! ;) )

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kbp wrote:
I'd trade 3 or 4 animations for 1 fight text any day!

kbp, we've been here most of the day, with not nearly enough breaks; poor Rumpole... you do know trial started shortly after midnight for him, right? BDLR flapped; weasel, um, well, weaseled; and we even had to sit through Guy of the multiple blatant lies in his opening statement...

My point is, I think we at RT earned both. :wall

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This is SO exciting and I hope West is able to get some of this stuff in...I was so disappointed earlier when I realized the defense's last witness was a woman at home in the bed.

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