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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:36 pm 
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flgirl543 wrote:
Isn't an animation of the event suppose to be as close as they can get to the actual event? If the state wanted an exact recreation, then they would need a real time video of the event.

Yes, exactly. Good point.

And we know the state cannot do an animation because the facts are just not on their side, estimated times or not.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:37 pm 
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Weasel's pants get wet every time he points out where he may prove he is correct and Shoemaker is wrong, irrelevant or not, even a little moist if he's close to proving him incorrect!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:40 pm 
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chipbennett wrote:

That's Nelson's own fault. Perhaps if she had granted one of the defense's half-dozen motions for continuance, she wouldn't have to keep putting the jury on ice so that the court can resolve such matters.

I think it was kbp who pointed out these things should have been done pre-trial. The jury has spent extra days sequestered because the judge was in such a hurry to start trial, pre-trial matters were left for during trial, and in the case of the defense's Richardson hearing, even after trial.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:40 pm 
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5:33 p.m.
Schumaker says he needed physical evidence of the positioning of the bodies when the shot went off.

He says he based it off his conversation with Dr. Di Maio.

He says the purpose of the final positioning is to show who is on top and on the bottom.

Schumaker says the animation depicts the position according to Dr. Di Maio’s findings.

He says he wasn’t showing bullet trajectory, so there was no rod used in the animation.

Schumaker says that wasn’t the purpose of the animation.

He says he doesn’t believe he was told to purposely leave the gun out of the animation.

5:25 p.m.

Schumaker explains that he could back track from the gunshot as to when Good went out and went back in.

Mantei says he wants to focus on the audio played over video based on nothing more than estimations.

“By the person who was witnessing it,” Schumaker responds.

“I don’t think it has to be specific to the exact word that she was saying,” he says in answer to Mantei’s question about exactness.

Schumaker says it is a scenario based on consultation with the attorneys.

“The purpose of him involved in the animation isn’t so much whether he was outside… Its putting him into the location and showing what he was able to see at that time,” Schumaker says.

Mantei asks about the portion of the animation that shows Good leave, but the figures can still be seen on the ground and what witness testimony is being relied on.

Schumaker says it is based on Zimmerman’s testimony.

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kbp wrote:
Weasel's pants get wet every time he points out where he may prove he is correct and Shoemaker is wrong, irrelevant or not, even a little moist if he's close to proving him incorrect!

:Gslap

Maybe, but I'm thinking wetting his pants is a lifelong issue for the weasel.

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The total station data was entered in testimony. Is Weasel's argument that even the state's total station records are inaccurate?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:48 pm 
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Weasel to Nelson... "Do you have your laptop with you there.... SIR" :lol

I know Nelson is a bit butch... but I don't think junior weasels are supposed to call her "Sir" :eek

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kbp wrote:
The total station data was entered in testimony. Is Weasel's argument that even the state's total station records are inaccurate?

Weasel is saying because animator can't know to the split-second and to the millimeter, then any animation is worthless. Like flgirl543 suggested - the weasel is arguing that the defense isn't presenting an actual video of the events, therefore, it's worthless. ;)

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It must be "Cocktails" hour?

The "Journalists" are leaving in droves

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Looks pretty good to me.... NOT GUILTY....

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Rumpole wrote:
It must be "Cocktails" hour?

The "Journalists" are leaving in droves

The weasel is putting me to sleep. Maybe the media went for coffee?

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kbp wrote:
The total station data was entered in testimony. Is Weasel's argument that even the state's total station records are inaccurate?

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Weasel is saying because animator can't know to the split-second and to the millimeter, then any animation is worthless. Like flgirl543 suggested - the weasel is arguing that the defense isn't presenting an actual video of the events, therefore, it's worthless. ;)

That I get, but Weasel is even bebating the accuracy of the shell casing, TM's phone... all of which is stationary with exact location entered through total station.


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Were I on the stand, I'd just pick up my laptop and tell Nelson that her court in the State of Floriduh is a joke.


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5:47 p.m.
Judge Nelson asks to interrupt. She says she saw it briefly on a computer, but it would be helpful to have it on the screen.

5:44 p.m.
Mantei asks about the second deposition and shows him a page from it.

Schumaker says it says in consultation with the attorney he left the gun out.

He says it was not the purpose of this video.

Mantei asks if the video omits the gun.

Schumaker says that is correct because it wasn’t the purpose.

Mantei asks about the conditions when the people in the suits were recorded and if they were moving in a rapid pace.

O’Mara objects that the video doesn’t show movement.

Schumaker says it wasn’t raining, the grass wasn’t wet and other physical items were out there.

He says he measured the areas from the drain boxes and the sprinkler boxes to get the correct position.

Schumaker says its best to record the action at the scene for better interaction.

He says they laid out markers.

Mantei asks about the shell casing’s proximity to the third location.

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kbp wrote:
That I get, but Weasel is even bebating the accuracy of the shell casing, TM's phone... all of which is stationary with exact location entered through total station.

Ok, since you're watching, then you know the weasel is ignoring that, like he does all of the credible evidence. :Gslap

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