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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:01 pm 
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The several things I got from Ms.Dilligard's testimony were: 1. She confirmed George's nose was disfigured. 2. Where George's car was parked. 3. George had a light voice. 4. The voice in the 911 call was George. 5. She was black and George didn't shoot her.

BTW I don't know who I can't stand more, Bernie or Weasel, with Guy a close third.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:03 pm 
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liesel wrote:
Oh, I didn't know that. I thought he just walked in and took an empty seat. Ok, so that happened because they initially weren't going to call him, which changed the Saturday before he testified.


Hope that works this time. When is the hearing or is there one?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:03 pm 
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Good questions - IDK the answer as to "when" Donnelly was on the "list".

What are your thoughts as to the judge starting at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow for this (1 hour in advance of jury - a long time)

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flgirl543 wrote:
I got several things from Ms.Dilligard's testimony were: 1. She confirmed George's nose was disfigured. 2. Where George's car was parked. 3. George had a low voice. 4. The voice in the 911 call was George. 5. She was black and George didn't shoot her.

BTW I don't know who I can't stand more, Bernie or Weasel, with Guy a close third.

Agreed on the sleaze team, all tied up for first place slimey trophy but I thought Mrs. Dilligard said GZ's voice was "light"? To me, "low" means deep.

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Agreed on the sleaze team, all tied up for first place slimey trophy but I thought Mrs. Dilligard said GZ's voice was "light"? To me, "low" means deep.


Corrected, TY


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Why are people saying Crump won't be called? I'm pissed if that's true!!!


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THIS!
And I hope the defense hammers on it.


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Schumaker says the animation was adjusted to testimony in court, but he didn’t hear it or observe it himself.

Mantei says part of the animation shows Martin and Zimmerman approach each other, but no one jumps out of a bush.

“There was no evidence,” Schumaker says.

Mantei points out the plotting of various items like the flashlight and the sprinkler boxes, but the animation zooms with an arrow to a place 40 feet away showing the figures bound up together.

Schumaker says that shows the movement based on reports and the trail of evidence.

He says the arrow moves them from one witnessed event to the next witnessed event.

Mantei asks how tall Jon Good is.

Schumaker says he is 6-foot-tall based on information he received from the attorneys.

5:04 p.m.
Schumaker explains the accelerometers on the suit and the signal they send to his laptop.

He says there were two prior versions adjusted for more accuracy according to the witnesses.

He did not see courtroom testimony.

Mantei asks if he adjusted them based on what Zimmerman’s attorneys told him was said in court.

“Yes,” he says.

Schumaker says he takes coroner’s reports, discovery, specifics at the scene, Total Station data and his findings of the scene to put it into context.

Mantei asks which testimony was incorporated into the animation.

Schumaker mentions Jeremy Weinberg.

He says Lauer’s, Good’s and Mora’s testimony was used.

Judge Nelson says it must be trial testimony or evidence incorporated into the animation.

Schumaker says it was Lauer’s testimony.

Mantei asks about the visual depiction because Lauer only heard what happened.

The court tries to track down a noisy vibrating phone.

4:56 p.m.
Mantei asks Schumaker if he ever had to use the suit to capture a physical fight between two people for a court case before a jury.

Schumaker names a Greenburg case and says he had to determine the position of two people involved in a shooting.

Mantei says he wants to focus on testimony before a court.

Schumaker says the suit he used has been accepted into court in two other cases.

This is the first one with close contact, he says.

Mantei asks about his company being the only one to use the suit for reconstruction purposes.

Schumaker says there are a limited number of them.

He says the suit was calibrated at the factory and he calibrates it when he uses it.

Schumaker says height for the person wearing the suit is not that important to match the victim.

Mantei asks if he knew the person’s height and weight.

Schumaker says it wasn’t relevant, but they were similar stature to the people he was trying to represent.

Mantei asks about the length of their arms and legs.

Schumaker says he didn’t measure their arms.

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flgirl543 wrote:

Corrected, TY

Phew! I have a lot of distractions, thought I may have misunderstood the witness or your use of descriptor. Thanks! :)

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:lol


Weasel making a big point of NOT matching the lighting conditions... near total darkness where you cant see anything :lol


Sounds like a job for LIMPapa.... 7 minutes of a black screen... (with inappropriate music) :95

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Why are people saying Crump won't be called? I'm pissed if that's true!!!

Because MOM has suggested he expects to be done tomorrow. That doesn't leave a lot of time. He may not be able to get enough relevant info to make it worthwhile. Keep in mind, he's looking to free his client. Busting the collusion and narrative isn't the same thing exactly, and may not be allowed into evidence based on lack of relevance. I'm more surprised if the defense doesn't recall #8.

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Puzzler wrote:
Good questions - IDK the answer as to "when" Donnelly was on the "list".

What are your thoughts as to the judge starting at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow for this (1 hour in advance of jury - a long time)

That's because of the lengthy morning session today. She was very irritated, even barked at the weasel.

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Mantei asks if the animation shows artificial light.

Schumaker says that is correct.

He says the most important thing on the video is seeing detail.

Other people can testify to the lighting conditions, Schumaker adds.

He says it was prior to the trial, but based on police reports and interviews for placement of the people.

He says he read three handwritten witness statements.

Mantei asks about the use of Lauer’s 911 call, but the showing of actions of everyone else.

Mantei asks if he was told Good stated where he was during Lauer’s 911 call.

Schumaker says there was no in court testimony about it, but he consulted with the attorneys.

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I'm disappointed at the thought that the defense isn't recalling Witness #8 either...nor GZ's father to testify that it's his son screaming on the 911 tape.

Unless...the defense is "saving" those two witnesses for a sur-rebuttal...in which case, I'm distressed because I think it's a very good chance that the prosecution won't put on a rebuttal case.

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Puzzler wrote:
Good questions - IDK the answer as to "when" Donnelly was on the "list".

What are your thoughts as to the judge starting at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow for this (1 hour in advance of jury - a long time)
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That's because of the lengthy morning session today. She was very irritated, even barked at the weasel.


That's Nelson's own fault. Perhaps if she had granted one of the defense's half-dozen motions for continuance, she wouldn't have to keep putting the jury on ice so that the court can resolve such matters.

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Puzzler wrote:
I'm disappointed at the thought that the defense isn't recalling Witness #8 either...nor GZ's father to testify that it's his son screaming on the 911 tape.

Unless...the defense is "saving" those two witnesses for a sur-rebuttal...in which case, I'm distressed because I think it's a very good chance that the prosecution won't put on a rebuttal case.

Maybe RZsr is compromised by his recent e-book? Or maybe being saved for the end tomorrow? We don't know for sure who is scheduled for tomorrow, so maybe #8 will be recalled, she wrote, hopefully.

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Isn't an animation of the event suppose to be as close as they can get to the actual event? If the state wanted an exact recreation, then they would need a real time video of the event.


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For anyone who lost feed at WFTV, I watch from Legal Insurrection which has WFTV and down below, NBC. I switched to the bottom feed.

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