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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:26 pm 
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Witness: Eloise Dilligard - Resident at Retreat at Twin Lakes

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4:15 p.m.
De la Rionda asks if she ever heard Martin’s voice.

She says that is correct she never heard his voice.

Dilligard is excused.

Judge Nelson asks the attorneys to approach.

4:14 p.m.
The video connection was lost, but reconnected.

Dilligard explains how she drove to the area to get a better view of the crime scene.

She says the truck was parked on Retreat View Circle just to the left of the “T” area.

O’Mara finishes questioning.

De la Rionda begins cross examining.

4:08 p.m.
Dilligard says she went back to the crime scene to see if Shellie was OK, but didn’t see her.

She says she gave an officer her name and phone number.

She gave statement to law enforcement after an FBI agent left a card on her door. She says he and another agent interviewed her at her house.

Dilligard says she heard the 911 call with the screams in the background first on a local news channel.

She has listened to it two or three times.

She says she heard the voice screaming in the background and has only heard Zimmerman talk.

She says she thinks it is Zimmerman’s voice.

She says he has a light male voice.

O’Mara holds a picture over the iPad to show her and have her identify where she saw Zimmerman’s truck.

O’Mara says it won’t work and he will move on.

3:55 p.m.
She says she was shown a second picture but did not know the person’s name, but had seen him in passing possibly earlier that day.

She knows now that person was Trayvon Martin.

She says her first concern was where Zimmerman’s wife was.

She says she went to her house and knocked on Zimmerman’s house next door.

De la Rionda objects to Dilligard sharing what Shellie, Zimmerman’s wife said.

O’Mara asks to be heard at the bench.

3:52 p.m.
She says she was returning to the neighborhood as police were pulling in. Dilligard says she saw crime scene tape being put up and went the back way to her house and asked some guys what was going on, and then she went toward the crime scene area.

She says it was very rainy that night.

She says she saw Zimmerman’s truck.

O’Mara asks her to describe the area the truck was located in.

She says she saw quite a few people standing on the sidewalk. She says she looked around to see if she saw Zimmerman because she saw his truck.

She says he asks a woman she recognized from an HOA meeting about what happened.

De la Rionda objects to hearsay.

Dilligard says she only asked what was going on.

She says she didn’t see Zimmerman and attempted to talk to other residents there, but as she was walking away a police officer said “You don’t want to talk to me.”

She says she didn’t know what she could tell him, but he said he was trying to identify the person involved.

The officer said he was going to take a picture to see if they recognized the victim or the other person.

She says he came back with two pictures.

Other people were present, a man and a married couple. She doesn’t remember their names.

She says she identified Zimmerman. The picture showed he had a bloody nose, she says.

Dilligard says his nose was bloody and looked disfigured.

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4:21 p.m.
The jury is dismissed for the evening. The court will recess for 10 minutes and then they will take up the animation issue.

Court will be back at 8 a.m. to address issues with witness Donnelly.

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Does anyone remember the date when trial proper started? It was a Monday when the rule was invoked. Donnelly was there on the 25th and 26th, iirc, Tuesday and Wednesday. I'm thinking he just didn't know, and no one, including state, noticed him.

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Is it just me or is Shaffer showing signs of dementia? He seems to be struggling with trying to remember what he is seeing, who is who, and other details.


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liesel wrote:
Yes, what happened to GZ was a crime!

GZ is a victim twice over. First victimized by TM assaulting him, then assaulted by the government.


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liesel wrote:
Does anyone remember the date when trial proper started? It was a Monday when the rule was invoked. Donnelly was there on the 25th and 26th, iirc, Tuesday and Wednesday. I'm thinking he just didn't know, and no one, including state, noticed him.

He got a pass to get in from someone on the defense.


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mung wrote:
Is it just me or is Shaffer showing signs of dementia? He seems to be struggling with trying to remember what he is seeing, who is who, and other details.

Is this a personal health thingy?

You watch him to keep your blood flowing?


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liesel wrote:
Does anyone remember the date when trial proper started? It was a Monday when the rule was invoked. Donnelly was there on the 25th and 26th, iirc, Tuesday and Wednesday. I'm thinking he just didn't know, and no one, including state, noticed him.

Or if you dont remember... check the TRIAL archive threads? :cool

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Evidence hearing

4:46 p.m.
Mantei begins cross examining Daniel Schumaker as part of a Daubert hearing for admission of animation evidence.

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What's up with Donnelly? I thought he weathered one state's motion. There is another one now? State sure don't don't want his testimony in I guess. Is their another hearing?


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I really think Weasel has problems with controlling his muscles. Maybe the beginning of something.


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Donnelly was a witness
Witnesses are not to be in the courtroom and observe the trial (i.e., GZ's mom, dad and wife)
Donnelly was in the courtroom back around June 26 (pictures prove it)
State wants his testimony to be thrown out
It's up to the defense to make sure defense witnesses know they are not to be in court before they testify
Question is: did he hear anything while he was in court that affects his testimony on the stand

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mung wrote:
Is it just me or is Shaffer showing signs of dementia? He seems to be struggling with trying to remember what he is seeing, who is who, and other details.

My clue was Scheaffer saying there is evidence to support manslaughter and even Murder2. :Gslap

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seeing_eye wrote:
GZ is a victim twice over. First victimized by TM assaulting him, then assaulted by the government.

Don't forget he's also a victim of the media.

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He got a pass to get in from someone on the defense.

Oh, I didn't know that. I thought he just walked in and took an empty seat. Ok, so that happened because they initially weren't going to call him, which changed the Saturday before he testified.

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Puzzler wrote:
Donnelly was a witness
Witnesses are not to be in the courtroom and observe the trial (i.e., GZ's mom, dad and wife)
Donnelly was in the courtroom back around June 26 (pictures prove it)
State wants his testimony to be thrown out
It's up to the defense to make sure defense witnesses know they are not to be in court before they testify
Question is: did he hear anything while he was in court that affects his testimony on the stand


Was Donnelley listed as a Witness on 25-26 June, and therefore subject to the sequester order?

I've heard conflicting information, including that he was first added as a witness on 8 July; that he was originally a listed witness, then removed from the witness list, then added back to the witness list; and that he was a listed witness all along.

Sorting that out is the key. If he wasn't a listed witness on the dates he was in the courtroom, then he wasn't subject to the sequestration order on those dates, and thus no violation took place.

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Good points, Chip. I guess we'll find out tomorrow, bright and early. ugh.

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