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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:39 am 
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Good morning, seeing_eye, SheStone, and waltherppk. Nice to cyber see everyone here! :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:40 am 
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Jaharvis was full of words to describe answers to the state's questions.

However, when the defense starts asking questions, J.F. doesn't know, can't remember, etc.


Just like Chad's testimony.


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I read the defense is bringing Vincent DiMaio in. Not worried about unhelpful state ME; their guy is respected expert and is, well, their guy.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:41 am 
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Isn't it odd that the evidence locker can't be opened???

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:43 am 
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liesel wrote:
I read the defense is bringing Vincent DiMaio in. Not worried about unhelpful state ME; their guy is respected expert and is, well, their guy.



Ewww. I don't like or trust Vincent DiMaio. His testimoney was ridiculous in the Phil Spector case.


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liesel wrote:
I read the defense is bringing Vincent DiMaio in. Not worried about unhelpful state ME; their guy is respected expert and is, well, their guy.


Good.

Will O'Mara bring out through his expert that TM had liver disease?

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Libtardh8r wrote:
And...locksmith? WTF?

To get evidence out of a locker to which apparently no one has a key. Likely why Traymom™'s testimony was bifurcated.

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liesel wrote:
Good morning, seeing_eye, SheStone, and waltherppk. Nice to cyber see everyone here! :)

Good morning to everyone too! I just woke up and got on just in time for them to recess for "indefinitely." What does that mean? I'm lost.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:46 am 
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Have I mentioned today how much I hate recesses?

Now Bill Schaeffer is saying that the State his, indeed, offered enough evidence to prove its case, and to justify Nelson denying a motion for JOA. ("It depends on how you view the evidence.")

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Puzzler wrote:
Isn't it odd that the evidence locker can't be opened???


Opened now, I think state will show picture of dead Trayvon, that's why state will bring Sybrina back.


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Puzzler wrote:
Isn't it odd that the evidence locker can't be opened???


This entire case is odd....Vinnie P. thinks that the evidence locker being locked forced the state to put Jahavris on. I really wish O'Mara could make a point that Jahavris didn't live with Trayvon while TM lived all those years with Alicia. I'm not even sure that Jahavris lived with Sybrinia....another thing, Jahavris changed his last name after Trayvon was killed.


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SheStone - Baden was even worse and he's still on tv all of the time.

Puzzler, I doubt they will get into any medical info not specifically related to TM™'s death or GZ's injuries. If they tried, the state would object and the judge would likely sustain as irrelevant and privileged medical info. JMO

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Does anyone understand what the state's aversion to having the ME that performed the autopsy testify?

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Hi all
I got here late... sorry
RT server was down as well... I deleted posts here about that.

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Witness: Sybrina Fulton - Martin's mother

9:05 a.m.
She says she didn’t really know what the tape was about. She says she was the first to react.

O’Mara asks about the other people listening to the recording.

She says they didn’t tell her anything.

O’Mara asks if anyone spoke to her, telling her she would be listening to screams.

She says no one did, they hadn’t heard the tape at the time.

O’Mara asks if anyone prepared her.

She says no.

She says she listened to it once.

O’Mara finishes questioning.

De la Rionda redirects.

He asks if she hoped her son would be alive.

“I hope he was still alive,” she says.

“Did you enjoy listening to the recording,” De la Rionda asks.

“Absolutely not,” she says.

O’Mara re-cross examines.

He asks if she hoped Martin did nothing that lead to his own death.

She says she hoped that this would’ve never happened and he would still be here.

“I don’t believe he was,” she says in answer to O’Mara’s question that Martin was responsible for his own death.

Fulton is excused.

The state calls Jahvaris Fulton.

9:00 a.m.
Fulton says she recognizes the screaming as Martin.

De la Rionda has no further questions.

O’Mara cross examines.

He begins by apologizing for her loss. Judge Nelson says he needs to ask a question.

He asks her about the first time she listened to the recording.

She says it was at the mayor’s office in Sanford.

She says law enforcement were there, but not in the room.

O’Mara asks if she was there when Chief Lee had a conversation with the mayor and city manager.

She says no. She says she thinks it was the mayor that played the recording for her.

In the room was Tracy Martin, her other son, attorneys Benjamin Crump and Natalie Jackson, Mayor Triplette, City Manager Bonaparte and a few others.

O’Mara asks if anyone listened to it individually.

She says Tracy Martin did not tell her he had listened to the tape before and did not have a conversation about it with him.

“Absolutely,” she says in answer to it being one of the worst experiences.

O’Mara asks if it was Zimmerman saying those screams, she would have to accept that it was her son that caused his death.

“I heard my son screaming,” she says.

8:54 a.m.
Fulton has two other children. She lives in Miami. Martin’s birthday was Feb. 5. She says she is on leave from her employer.

She has worked for the county for 24 years.

She tells the court her education background.

She says Martin was right-handed. He had tattooes of praying hands on his right should with his grandmother’s and great grandmother’s names and

Sybrina’s name on his left wrist.

She says she has heard him crying before.

De la Rionda plays the recording of the 911 call with the screams heard in the background.

8:41 a.m.
The state calls Sybrina Fulton, Trayvon Martin's mother, to take the stand. The attorneys go into sidebar.

8:40 a.m.
The jury is seated. Judge Nelson checks to make sure they did not discuss the case, see reports about it or research it.

8:37 a.m.
Judge Debra Nelson arrives in court and addresses matters the prosecution or defense asks about. She asks Zimmerman about a stipulation the state requests regarding the identity of the victim, Trayvon Martin. He agrees to it.

Guy submits a report from Weather Underground detailing the weather conditions from the night of the shooting. The defense objects. Judge Nelson says it will be taken up later.

Judge Nelson asks for the jury to be brought in.

8:18 a.m.
Court is expected to resume at 8:30 a.m.

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Witness: Jahvaris Fulton - Martin's brother

9:23 a.m.
Judge Nelson says his answer was the same. O’Mara says his concern is the questions before the break.

The court reporter reads more of the transcript.

Judge Nelson says whether he remembers the question is a collateral matter and his answer was the same.

O’Mara says he renews the request because the interview shows his inflection and hesitation.

Judge Nelson asks what it is for on a legal basis because it cannot be played for impeachment purposes because his answer was the same.

He submits the clip as an exhibit.

Judge Nelson give a recess as the locksmith arrives to work on the evidence locker door.

9:18 a.m.
Judge Nelson says she thinks the witness said he wasn’t sure, so it should be played without the presence of the jury.

O’Mara plays the interview without the screen.

Jahvaris says in the interview he didn’t listen to the recording that well and he’s not positive it is Trayvon.

O’Mara renews his request to play the interview before the jury.

The state argues that Jahvaris already answered the questioned.

Judge Nelson asks the court reporter to read back the record.

9:14 a.m.
He says he and Martin was living together with his mother, brother and uncle.

He says he was aware Martin was with Tracy Martin. He learned of Trayvon’s death the following Monday from his mother.

He has heard the recording of the screaming and the gunshot. He estimates he’s heard it 10 to 15 times.

He says he recognizes Trayvon’s voice in the yelling and screaming.

He says he has heard Trayvon yell, not like that though.

Guy finishes questioning.

O’Mara cross examines.

O’Mara asks about an interview with a report in March 2012 in which he’s says he not positive it’s his brother, but thinks it is.

O’Mara asks about the first time he heard the recording in the room with everyone else.

Jahvaris says he didn’t want to believe that it was really Trayvon as he was feeling shock and sadness.

Jahvaris says he’s not sure of the dates of the interview and hearing the recording.

He says he probably didn’t listen to the tape between that time. He says he’s not sure of the time being asked about.

O’Mara asks him about an interview with a Miami reporter.

Jahvaris says he doesn’t remember the question.

O’Mara asks if he can play the recording. The state objects to improper impeachment.

The jury is excused.

9:05 a.m.
Jahvaris Fulton, 22, takes the stand. He attends FIU. His major is information technology. He is Martin's older brother. Martin is not his biological father, he says.

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chipbennett wrote:
Have I mentioned today how much I hate recesses?

Now Bill Schaeffer is saying that the State his, indeed, offered enough evidence to prove its case, and to justify Nelson denying a motion for JOA. ("It depends on how you view the evidence.")


I used to respect Schaeffer, but he has said some things that I don't agree with. I realize I may biased, but he may also be playing devil's advocate.


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Does anyone think Sybrina had the emotional impact the media predicated?


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Libtardh8r wrote:
"I heard him yell, BUT NOT LIKE THAT" (emphasis mine)

Good catch. I agree - his latest opinion is worthless, imo.

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SheStone - Baden was even worse and he's still on tv all of the time.

Puzzler, I doubt they will get into any medical info not specifically related to TM™'s death or GZ's injuries. If they tried, the state would object and the judge would likely sustain as irrelevant and privileged medical info. JMO


Oh I agree Baden was much worse with his Ah-ha moment.

I hope they stick to just the specific injuries and he doesn't come off too arrogant.


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