Just how is impeachment on a claim on Hannity, not under oath, that he didn't know SYG, make it a material fact of the alleged crime?

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Perhaps a statistical link.

95% of all murderers do a criminal justice course

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Is the weasel whining???

5DCA is going to chew Nelson into indistinguishably small pieces should this case go before them on appeal.

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"That the attacker sustained a mortal wound is a matter that should have been considered by the deceased before he committed himself to the task he undertook." - 5th DCA, Stinson v. State (Fl)

Anyone who claims self defense better not have taken any course in criminal justice or law. Is it OK to watch TV shows like Law & Order etc.

O'Mara: "I ask the State to proffer evidence that Zimmerman was in attendance on the date that the professor spoke on self-defense/SYG, which isn't even in the textbook"
Mantei: "It is our contention that the defendant had access to this information"

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3:40 p.m.
One class was called Criminal Litigation. A diploma certificate application is included. Mantei says it shows his proposed graduation date.

Another class was called Criminal Investigation. Mantei says that is Professor Pleasant’s class and he has an update about his situation also.

She says not all of the records would be relevant because they show other courses. She says they need to be redacted.

Mantei submits a course book. He says Professor Carter will testify with the exhibits.

O’Mara says the state shouldn’t be able to present evidence for solely the purposes of impeachment.

Wouldn’t that be the same as declaring a witness as a hostile witness, Judge Nelson asks.

He says the state should not be able to create their own impeachable evidence.

3:33 p.m.
Record number on is his school transcript. Record number two is Zimmerman’s work in a criminal law and procedure class. Record number three is an application to be a police officer in Prince William County in Virginia. The fourth is an application for a ride-along with the Sanford Police Department.

Mantei argues it shows frame of mind and his interest in law enforcement and is relevant to show he had the background to be able to discuss with police and understand what they do.

Mantei says Zimmerman’s knowledge of the law is relevant, mentioning his statement to Sean Hannity that he never heard of the Stand Your Ground law, but it contradicts his school studies.

O’Mara says they are trying to use a transcript that Zimmerman seeking a legal studies degree is irrelevant. He mentions the pains to not use Martin’s school records because they are protected.

O’Mara says they should show the record is relevant to an issue in the case, calling it a “fishing expedition.”

Judge Nelson says she doesn’t understand his use of the term “fishing expedition.”

O’Mara says their theory hasn’t been proven by hard facts evidence.

Judge Nelson says Zimmerman said in the interview played with the Hannity Show, he mentioned not knowing the Stand Your Ground Law. The records are to show he had knowledge with course review.

O’Mara says he calls it a “fishing expedition,” because he asks where it ends, suggesting a 6th grade civics course could be used.

Judge Nelson says they are being specific and she hasn’t seen the proposed exhibits.

Mantei hands them to her.

3:24 p.m.
Judge Nelson hears arguments on the submission of Zimmerman's school work.

3:10 p.m.
Court is in recess for 15 minutes.

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How does just having access to something make it relevant? Anyone who has internet capabilities would have access to all sorts of information.

Ok, everyone with Westlaw, Lexis, etc., start digging, please!

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3:44 p.m.
O’Mara says he doesn’t think it’s appropriate to have the jury focused on Zimmerman’s school records.

Judge Nelson says that is their case and they should be allowed to present it.

O’Mara says there is no direct evidence to connect the classes with the event.

Judge Nelson says that will be before the jury and if the theory of the state’s case is that Zimmerman had the information or at least understood the process; she thinks they’re entitled to bring it forward.

O’Mara says if the state can’t connect the dots, they can’t allow the jury to just guess.

Mantei says the original objection is different than the current one.

He says the relevance is that if taken together it shows the Zimmerman had the knowledge.

Mantei says it’s odd to argue that they are good things, but then say they are prejudicial.

Judge Nelson says she will give them a 30 minute recess to find case law.

Mantei asks the date of the police application and date of the ride-along.

Court is in recess.

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Yeah, maybe more than a "how stupid can you be opinion" because this is so blatant. She's embarrassing the entire FL judiciary, imo.

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That must be why they put GZ's wife and parents on witness list - to testify that he watched multiple episodes!

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We would all be in big trouble if we had to claim self defense. I've learned a lot about the law from this case by reading and listening. This whole "theory of their case" is absurd. However, the jury might just buy it.

Oh noes!!!!


Has George got a library card? (To be old fashioned)

Or these days "THE INTERNET" That would mean he had access to Life, The Universe, and Everything!!!

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