That was my thought quickly; quit adding chapters.

With the history of break-ins in the neighborhood, there is some chance the slimjim was left there by someone else, but it's emblematic of this case that we have the co-incidence of the house by which it was found being in the area from which Zimmerman says Martin emerged from the dark.

Unless there are several other as yet undiscovered slimjims lying around in other parts of the neighborhood.

I just had a thought. If the gate camera can be disabled by a mower hitting something, could someone with criminal intent have deliberately disabled it? (Not Martin, 'cause George already knew it wasn't working)

Just forget the motion and think of it as an objection that followed a question/answer.

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Bernie working his witness to set up impeachment again?

Looks like $ybrina might have her Witness Stand Outfit and hairdo on. And the outfit looks damned hot. Isn't it summer in Florida?

MOM should have no problem handling this witness. He's not a law officer in this case, so where is he going with this?

Question for the lawyers: why isn't Osterman's testimony here considered hearsay? It's clearly testimony about Osterman's interpretation/inference of what Zimmerman told him.

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Allegedly inconsistent statements.

I hear nothing materially inconsistent, in this, the fifth or sixth recounting of events.

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My point, his dramatic impeachment after cross. It might be even more interesting with this witnesses testimonial in the book. Were I the witness, I'd point out that books search to add dramatic data throughout, just as Bernie does in his testimony.

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11:48 a.m.
Osterman says Zimmerman told him Martin put his hands over his nose and mouth.

He says Zimmerman told him Martin looked down and saw the holster and Zimmerman was trying to remove Martin’s hand from his mouth.

De la Rionda reads directly from Osterman’s book about Zimmerman describing Martin feeling his gun.

Osterman says Zimmerman told him Martin said “you’re going to die tonight, M.F.” He uses the initials saying he doesn’t like to curse in front of ladies.

Osterman confirms Zimmerman said after shooting Martin, he was afraid he might get up again, so he got on top of him to hold him.

He says Zimmerman said he had to get somewhere where he could observe until a police officer arrived.

11:39 a.m.
Osterman says there were two reasons for Zimmerman to get out of his car; the first was to get an address and give visual contact available for an arriving officer.

He says Zimmerman told him Martin confronted him, cursed at him and asked him if he had a problem.

De la Rionda asks about Osterman writing a book and if he used the expletive.

Osterman says the publisher asked that the expletive be taken out because it was graphic.

De la Rionda repeats the expletive.

Osterman says Zimmerman lost visual contact as he looked for his phone and was punched in the nose.

That’s when he stumbled back and found himself on his back, Osterman says, and Martin got on top of him with his knees near Zimmerman’s armpits.

Osterman says when Zimmerman started screaming, Martin bashed his head on the concrete.

He says Zimmerman squirmed and his jacket rose up, and he screamed at people he saw witnessing what was happening.

11:31 a.m.
De la Rionda asks if Osterman met with Zimmerman’s wife. He says yes.

Osterman says he drove Zimmerman and his wife somewhere and Zimmerman made statements to him.

Osterman says Zimmerman left him home as he did every Sunday to get lunches for the week, and on his way there he observed someone in a black hoodie and was someone he had not seen before and said the person was looking in windows.

He says Zimmerman described him as tall, about 6-foot, and slender.

He says Zimmerman knew the individual was a black male.

He says Zimmerman said someone walking through the neighborhood while it’s raining is suspicious.

De la Rionda asks Osterman to focus on what Zimmerman said.

“I was never told by George that Trayvon was using his phone,” Osterman says clearing up confusion about who was on the phone.

Osterman says Martin walked to the sidewalk area and Zimmerman pulled into the front of the clubhouse to wait for police to arrive.

De la Rionda asks if Zimmerman said Martin walked around his car.

“I think they looked at each other, George said,” says Osterman.

Osterman says George described two phases of contact; one when he first saw him and the other when he followed him with his car and lost visual sight of him.

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This witness elaborates to much.

I understand your point - it could have been TM™ at a prior time or someone else deliberately tampering with the video but it seems there would have been evidence to suggest one way or the other - mower or tampering.

As the evidence stands right now, the slim-jim could be a coincidence from someone else, or just a coincidental piece of awning from the property, as suggested by BDLR. However, if TM™'s past gets entered into evidence, that piece of awning would take on a lot of meaning to me as a juror.

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What is it they say about rats and sinking ships?

Osterman: <uses some colorfully descriptive term>
O'Mara: "can you explain that"
Osterman: *hem*, *haw* "Well, it's hard to describe, sir"

Terrible, terrible witness. Not because he's refuting anything Zimmerman said, but because his own incompetence makes getting any useful information out of him impossible.

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11:49 a.m.
Osterman says Zimmerman said he thought the gunshot went wide.

De la Rionda finishes questioning.

O’Mara rises for cross-examination.

Osterman says he has been in law enforcement since 1992.

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Language warning:

Didn't MoM prepare this witness?