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:NN12 ... was that a sonic boom or traybots heads exploding everywhere

"Was GZ telling the truth" ... Serino "yes"


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What an impressive cross O'Mara pulled...he was fantastic.

Schaeffer in answer to a question if the state can recover, said

* IT MAY BE TOO LITTLE TOO LATE*


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Video Replays of Today's Events





TRIAL PROPER - VIDEO REPLAYS (NO DISCUSSION)
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TRIAL PROPER(7) - DAY 17

State of Florida V George Zimmernan

Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:00AM EST




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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:22 am 
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George Zimmerman Trial Day 17: Live Updates

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Before court resumes

8:12 a.m.
Court is expected to resume with more testimony from Chris Serino, the lead investigator with the Sanford Police Department in the shooting of Trayvon Martin.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:39 am 
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Good morning, Rumpole and all! :91

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:03 am 
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And what is BDLR trying to pull now?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:04 am 
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Unbelievable - don't let LE give opinions? Oh, those opinions are just fine, if BDLR likes them.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:04 am 
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Bernie complaining that his own witnesses believe Zimmerman.

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BDLR should look up "The Streisand Effect".

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:09 am 
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chipbennett wrote:
Bernie complaining that his own witnesses believe Zimmerman.

Is there a source for that, or is it your conclusion?

Bernie knew what his witnesses believed long before the trial started.


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chipbennett wrote:
Bernie complaining that his own witnesses believe Zimmerman.
kbp wrote:
Is there a source for that, or is it your conclusion?

Bernie knew what his witnesses believed long before the trial started.


The current on-goings right this moment.

Bernie is referencing the motion in limine that Nelson granted to bar the defense from asking police officers about their opinion regarding Zimmerman's guilt or innocence, because O'Mara asked Serino his assessment of the consistency of Zimmerman's statements in the context of the challenge interview.

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9:13 a.m.
Prosecutor Richard Mantei says he has an issue to take up with the court, while O’Mara takes a moment to read the case law.

Judge Nelson reads from another case.

O’Mara says they aren’t the facts that they have in this case. He asks for time to read the documents.

9:11 a.m.
Judge Nelson asks what the specific objection is.

De la Rionda says it is about the questions asking of Serino’s opinions about the defendant’s answers to questions.

Judge Nelson asks for the specific questions. De la Rionda checks with the court reporter.

The court reporter reads back a portion of the transcript.

Judge Nelson asks for a response from the defense.

O'Mara says he needs to read the case law.

Judge Nelson reads a portion of one of the cases that mentions that a police witness's opinion about another witness invades the province of the jury to determine the credibility of a witness.

O'Mara says it would affect his client's right to a fair trial.

9:01 a.m.
Court resumes without the jury present. Prosecutor Bernie De la Rionda addresses a motion regarding improper opinion. He provides case law to the court.

Defense attorney Mark O’Mara asks for time to address the motion that isn’t in the middle of him questioning a witness.

Judge Nelson takes a moment to read over the documents.

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This whole mess with Professor "mountain walker" Pleasants is just more fodder for appeal due to reversible error. A defendant has the constitutional right to confront his accusers, period.

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lol, going to take the Serino statement away from the jury, should have known they would attempt dirty play like this. MOM asked him about a SPECIFIC part of his actual job. It is the Man's job to form an opinion and the defense should be able to question him about his job.


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9:25 a.m.
West says he needs and opportunity to speak to the witness before he takes the stand.

West says they weren’t aware of the significance of the witness’s testimony until after the start of the trial and realized it was in connection to

Zimmerman’s online course work.

West says there were no reminders during the day and when he was contacted by phone, he had already left the courthouse and Zimmerman had been escorted from the property.

West says the defendant has a right to be present in a case of perpetuated testimony.

He says they should schedule his testimony by Skype and they have no objection if he testifies out of order.

Mantei says whatever reason the defendant didn’t show up should constitute a waiver for the defendant.

Mantei proposes they play the direct testimony, introduce it and if counsel wishes to cross, they can try reaching the witness by video conference.

Judge Nelson asks Mantei to find out the witness’s availability for tomorrow and tables the argument until the afternoon.

9:20 a.m.
O’Mara says he would like the opportunity to examine the case law. He says his question was in the context of an investigating officer charged with making those decisions.

De la Rionda says the state is also entitled to a fair trial. He says the witness saying his opinion is improper.

Judge Nelson asks if he has an instruction for the jury.

De la Rionda suggests reading back the portion of the transcript and instructing the jury to disregard as to the “truth of veracity.”

Mantei says Prof. Gordon Pleasant’s deposition to perpetuate before he left town was scheduled and everyone showed up except for the defense.

Mantei says he proceeded with the direct testimony and provided the video to the defense.

He says the witness is traveling in the Mexico desert and may have occasions he can call.

Mantei says West asked that the witness be available to testify by video link.

He says the witness might be able to find a place to be available tomorrow morning.

West rises to give the defense response.

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They may strike that last question and answer but I have to wonder if you can really unring that bell.


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