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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:22 pm 
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I agree too about all of the grilling right after the event, I wonder how any of us might have responded given this same set of circumstances.

I'm astounded by some of what we are hearing.

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cherpa1 wrote:
Chris Serino (professional skeptic) is just terrific. Completely opposite of how I thought he would present himself. I hope he gets his detective job back. Who did that and why??? I think Traydad is sleeping in court. MSNBC folk are beside themselves and making outlandish arguments. Traybots too.

I hope you're taking notes for the daily daft! :98

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I agree too about all of the grilling right after the event, I wonder how any of us might have responded given this same set of circumstances.

I'm astounded by some of what we are hearing.

Anything in particular or just that GZ was charged and is on trial?

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I haven't seen Chip post for a while. Can someone please track him down and drag him back by his keyboard, please? ;)

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5:27 p.m.
The court reporter reads back from the record part of O’Mara’s questioning.

Judge Nelson says she thinks O’Mara is getting close the motion in limiting ruled on by the court. He is allowed to finish his question.

O’Mara asks if they should stop now for the day or continue.

Judge Nelson says she will ask the jury if they want to go to 6 o’clock.

5:19 p.m.
O’Mara asks if Serino expected some differences.

“I’m a professional skeptic,” Serino says in answer to what he think to someone that repeats the same story three times over the course of three weeks with three separate interviews.

O’Mara asks if anything caused him concern.

Serino says nothing he can “articulate.”

Serino agrees there were about a dozen witness statements available to him.

O’Mara asks if there was specific evidence that Zimmerman was acting in self-defense.

Serino says he had some.

O’Mara points out the injuries and witness statements that fit.

De la Rionda objects to the line of questioning and ask to approach.

5:13 p.m.
Serino says he doesn’t remember Singleton telling him about the conversation with Zimmerman about Martin passing and him asking about her religion.

O’Mara asks if a transcript of the interview would help him.

O’Mara asks if anything was specifically contradicted by evidence available at that point.

Serino says no.

Serino says his next contact with Zimmerman was over the phone.

Serino says Zimmerman was a little more animated in the video for the reenactment.

O’Mara asks if he noticed inconsistencies from the reenactment and what was said the night before.

Serino says at that point he was focused on trying to identify Martin.

Serino says he can't remember inconsistencies off the top of his head.

5:05 p.m.
O’Mara asks is Serino acknowledged the injuries on Zimmerman. He shows the pictures of Zimmerman from that night to Serino.

O’Mara asks if it seemed Zimmerman was uncaring. Serino says he didn’t know him prior, and it would be included in his concerns, but “other things might’ve been going on.”

O’Mara asks if Zimmerman seeming cavalier or uncaring. Not necessarily, Serino says.

Serino says other than the next day needing to go to class, he seemed to not be making reasons to be unavailable.

Serino says it appeared odd he had that on his mind based on what happened and struck him as being different.

O’Mara asks if it was concerning to say he had to work in the morning. Serino says it was a little concerning.

4:58 p.m.
O’Mara asks if Serino was concerned by Zimmerman’s flat response. He says somewhat.

O’Mara asks if Serino has had to draw his weapon and shot someone, killing them. Serino says no.

De la Rionda objects to relevance.

O’Mara asks if Zimmerman was cleaned up before seeing him. O’Mara shows him the bloody photo taken from the back of a patrol car.

De la Rionda asks to approach.

4:51 p.m.
O’Mara asks about the walk-through the next day and Zimmerman being read his rights again.

O’Mara asks if Zimmerman ever showed anger or disdain toward Martin.

He says no.

Serino says he can’t remember if Singleton ever said Zimmerman wasn’t aware Martin had died.

O’Mara asks about police technique in getting to the person of interest as soon as possible.

Serino says it is referred to as “locking in” a statement to “keep it pristine.”

O’Mara asks about the interview from Jon Good.

De la Rionda asks to approach for a side bar.

4:45 p.m.
O’Mara asks Serino about his position as the chief investigating officer for the case. He confirms.

O’Mara asks about tasks assigned to other officers, like gathering evidence and interviewing witnesses.

He asks if Serino talked about it with the team of officers, including the chief of police and members of the state attorney’s office.

O’Mara asks for the timing in which Serino talked to Zimmerman. Serino says it was 12:05 a.m.

O’Mara asks about the interview with Jon Good, calling him the “eye-witness.” Serino says he talked to Good before talking to Zimmerman.

O’Mara asks if it fair to say he had more information that Officer Singleton had. Serino says yes.

Serino says he didn’t listen to Zimmerman’s non-emergency call before initially talking to him.

4:36 p.m.
Serino says he showed a picture of Martin to Zimmerman trying to show how skinny he was.

De la Rionda finishes questioning.

O'Mara rises for cross-examination.

4:30 p.m.
De la Rionda asks Serino about the photos shown to Zimmerman during his interview.

He asks about one photo in particular. O’Mara objects to publishing it to the jury.

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Anything in particular or just that GZ was charged and is on trial?


All of it. Right from the beginning I have been surprised that this man is facing the charges he's faced.

I have always seen this case simply as one of self defense.

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I keep getting edited on chat boards ..... when the Traybots say "Justice for Trayvon" ... I respond "Trayvon got his justice" ....


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liesel wrote:
I haven't seen Chip post for a while. Can someone please track him down and drag him back by his keyboard, please? ;)


He may be spreading his Wealth around.... check CTH :)

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New, Improved, extra, spare, lucky photobucket account.........


Clearly you need more that one account if you are already committed to these Photobucket Ass-holes :butt

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5:36 p.m.
O’Mara asks Serino about what other actions he was taking as the investigating officer.

Serino says he spent several hours attempting to identify Martin, most of the night he adds.

He then had to make arrangements to have him released.

Serino says he had to compare the interview with the statement and they realized that the only person that saw what happened and how it initiated was going to be Zimmerman due to lack of witnesses.

Serino says no one could be located that saw Zimmerman and Martin come together.

Seriono says the lack of remembering the streets was suspicious and other oddities were all he had to confront Zimmerman initially.

O’Mara asks if Serino was under pressure to move the case forward. Serino says yes.

O’Mara asks about what he calls the “challenge interview,” with the purpose to break the person’s story.

Serino says it is to discover the truth.

5:29 p.m.
Judge Nelson asks the jury how late they want to stay. The jury says staying until 6 p.m. is not an issued.

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BTW... it is BRILLIANT that MOM has got into this line of questioning.

It clarifies WHY they were so down on George.... this stuff of the "nasty" Serino interview has been the meat and drink for rabid Traybots.... it never concerned me because "Good cop/Bad cop" was the obvious technique.

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Mentoring now before the jury! Woo hoo!

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And the state didn't object?? Were they asleep?

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State overruled again!

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6:00 p.m.
Court is in recess until 9 a.m.

5:58 p.m.
O’Mara asks about Serino telling Zimmerman Martin would videotape a lot of what he was doing and he believed the event was on video.

“It’s more a bluff,” Serino says.

Serino says Zimmerman said “Thank God,” and hoped someone videotaped it.

“Either he was telling the truth or a complete pathological liar, one of the two,” Serino says.

Serino says he thinks Zimmerman was telling the truth.

Judge Nelson dismisses the jury and gives them instructions for avoiding reports about the case and researching it.

5:52 p.m.
O’Mara asks about Zimmerman saying he had been hit 20 to 30 times and the lack of injuries.

Serino says it could’ve been a panic thing.

O’Mara asks if Serino saw pictures of Zimmerman’s injuries taken at SPD. He says yes.

Serino says there were injuries, but he’s seen worse working in the major crimes unit and didn’t consider them life-threatening.

O’Mara asks Serino if there were injuries. Serino says yes.

O’Mara asks if there need to be injuries. Serino says no.

O’Mara asks about the questions about following Martin.

O’Mara asks about Zimmerman’s answer about why he didn’t identify himself

Serinio says it was a concern for him because Zimmerman mentioned he mentored African American children.

O’Mara asks about the questioning of the timing and Zimmerman going back to his vehicle.

Serino says he questioned him about the time it took him. “It seemed there was a pause in there somewhere,” Serino says.

5:45 p.m.
O’Mara asks if Officer Singleton was helpful in her connection with Zimmerman over religion, pointing out the techniques law enforcement use to figure out what happened.

Serino says he was “gentle” in questioning Zimmerman because he wasn’t quite ready to “challenge” him.

“There was a lot of information I didn’t have to challenge him,” Serino says.

Serino says he is looking for omissions and admissions in questioning.

O’Mara points out Serino saying he would have to speak for Zimmerman and he would be under a lot of scrutiny.

“In this particular case he could’ve been considered a victim, also,” Serino says, adding that he kept an open mind for that.

Serino says there were external concerns and he needed to get it clarified.

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