10:39 a.m.
They assess if a sample is normal or deviates from normal range, Nakasone says.

He says the screaming heard is in an extreme emotional state, in response to West’s question about the speaking being in a life-threatening situation.

Nakasone says he talked to Tampa FBI agents and recommended they not attempt to record an enacted screaming voice for this case.

West asks if voice comparison is analyzed with comparison to a known sample of the person’s voice.

He asks about the decision to not have a voice reenactment done.

“We believe it would be extremely difficult to recreate the same situation,” Nakasone says, adding that scientists believe there are physiological differences under different conditions.

West asks about the impact of a life-threatening situation and determining age. Nakasone says he doesn’t think it would be possible to determine age from the screams of that voice.

“Under similar circumstance, it’s very very challenging,” Nakasone says and he didn’t attempt it.

West asks if to do so would be a “fool’s errand.”

Naksone says his opinion is that is the consensus among the scientific group.

"Unfortunately, that is correct," Nakasone says in answer to West's question that science cannot help determine whose voice is heard.

Nakasone says it is his opinion that familiar listerns could best determine the voice identity.

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She just said "A" judge will give instructions to the jury at the end of the case, not "I" will.

Does she know something we don't?

10:43 a.m.
West asks if Nakasone would urge caution to the jury with lay witness’s opinions.

Mantei objects.

West finishes. Mantei redirects.

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There it is. The fact that when the parents listened together, Tracy changed his mind and said it does sound like his son't voice.

So my more basic question is, HOW CAN the defense get this comparison played to the jury, if they can at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73tPKeKddfE

He just said humans can sometimes extract information that a computer cannot. How can this NOT be reason then to let the jury hear a comparison like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73tPKeKddfE

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10:56 a.m.
Nakasone says his lab uses a hybrid approach, meaning the examiner conducts the examination independently from computers, extracting some features humans can that computers can’t.

He says a computer can’t tell if the voice was happy, sad, or under duress and the two components must go hand-in-hand at the FBI.

West asks if any methodology software approach would be suitable for analyzing the screams.

None, Nakasone says.

Mantei re-directs, asking about the suitable methodology being used scientifically.

“That would not preclude familiar voice recognition by the individuals familiar with the voice,” Nakasone adds.

The court takes a recess for 15 minutes.

10:51 a.m.
Mantei questions him about familiar voice listening. He asks about the duration of samples, and then examiner bias.

“Do you think that law enforcement techniques or practices of that nature should mirror what goes on in a laboratory?”

Nakasone says he doesn’t have any say in what they do.

Mantei asks about the potential for bias and having two people familiar with a voice listening together.

Nakasone says there’s always a chance for bias. He says the chance for bias is less the more different the voices.

Mantei asks about familiar voice identification,

Nakasone says there’s no way for a computer to contain all the features of the voice.

West re-cross examines.

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Recess 15 min

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Well there is just no telling how it will go. I know how it should go, but we have to wait some time to see.

Fifteen minute break.

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Nakasone left the door open to familiarity.

State's objective, expert says Mom knows voice?

State wants us to believe it was Trayvon screaming for help. Since he was in the dominate position and able to retreat, why didn't he do so when help came in the form of John Good?

I have to agree with Chip. (Yes, again!) Schaeffer is just making stuff up now. If I understood correctly, he seemed to indicate that Naksone was good for the prosecution.

I may have to switch video streams. WFTV is convenient because it's on LI's page, with a twitter feed. But much more of this type of talk from Schaeffer will tip the balance to just opening another tab for video and switching back and forth to twitter feed.

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Best Video stream is........ CTH

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... ne-12-9am/


It is better even that Wildabouttrials, from whence it comes

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I missed first 30 minutes this morning. Did they announce who would testify today beside Nakasone?

That's what they'll claim he said. The state doesn't seem to care if what they present or argue has even a passing relationship with truth and fact.

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No

Antici............................ pation is part of the fun

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So does Shaffer not understand that George's family is going to come in and say that it is George screaming? So don't they cancel each other out?