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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:52 pm 
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Did he just testify (in essence) that the gun didn't jam; it was ready to fire?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:53 pm 
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Did he just testify (in essence) that the gun didn't jam; it was ready to fire?


Yes: one live round in the chamber.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:54 pm 
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So he handled the gun without glove, were his prints on the gun or holster?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:54 pm 
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A number of death threats being made on Twitter - this should be reported to someone.
This is terrible:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06 ... f-verdict/

‘IF ZIMMERMAN GET OFF, IMA GO KILL A WHITE BOY’: TRAYVON MARTIN SUPPORTERS MAKE SHOCKING THREATS AHEAD OF VERDICT

Yes, it's terrible but unlikely to be investigated unless the threats were at someone else, like a politician, or maybe even Trayborg™ which to me includes parents, BGI, etc.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:55 pm 
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Witness: Timothy Smith

2:52 p.m.
Smith says it was dark and raining and he was using his flashlight.

He says he say at least two people standing and one person on the ground. He points out the area on the aerial photo.

He says the person on the ground was facedown. He did not approach Martin because he was in contact with a person on the ground.

Guy shows a photo of the body on the ground. Smith confirms it is an accurate depiction on Martin’s body.

Guy asks Smith to point out Zimmerman, who rises from his seat.

Smith says he asked if the subject on the ground had been shot and who shot him.

He says Zimmerman answered that he did and he was still armed.

That’s when he pulled out his gun and secured Zimmerman in handcuffs, Smith says.

He says he took the gun and holster and tucked it between his magazine belt and holster.

Smith says Zimmerman was seated in the rear of his patrol vehicle and didn’t appear to have trouble walking.

The first officer to respond was Ayala, Smith believes.

He says Sgt. Raimondo also went to Martin.

Smith says he wasn’t wearing gloves when he took Zimmerman’s gun and didn’t handle it a certain way because there wasn’t enough time.

He says he removed the magazine and locked the slide back. He says a round was ejected and collected, and then secured in his patrol vehicle until he could get a gun box.

It was all submitted to evidence to Diana Smith, the crime scene technician who is also his wife.

Guy shows the gun to Smith.

2:44 p.m.
Guy questions Smith about the night of the shooting.

Smith says he responded to the complex shortly after 7 p.m. for a suspicious persons dispatch.

He was patrolling about a mile and a half away and says it was just a few minutes for him to respond. He says he got an update of “shots fired” as he entered the gates of the community.

He got through the gate with a gate code from dispatch, he says.

Guy shows a zoomed out aerial photo of the complex and surrounding area.

Smith points out the rout he took to get there. Guy shows a zoomed in photo. Smith points out the route he took in the complex. He says he arrived at one resident, but got an updated location that the incident was behind another residence.

Smith says he stopped at the end of the townhomes to use a spotlight on the patrol vehicle to shine it down the walkway. He says he say at least one person standing outside.

That’s when he continued around to the other side and parked.

2:39 p.m.
Officer Timothy Smith, with the Sanford Police Department, takes the witness stand.
Witness: Stacey Livingston

2:38 p.m
Guy asks if she thought Zimmerman had a brain injury. She says no.

Livingston says she never measured the lacerations on Zimmerman’s head. She says no.

Guy finishes questioning.

Livingston is excused.

2:36 p.m.
O’Mara asks about concerns with head injuries. She asks what he means.

She says they questioned him and asked if he lost consciousness. She says he said he felt dizzy.

O’Mara asks if brain injury is possible. She says possibly.

“They would have to be transported to a medical facility for an x-ray,” she says, adding that a patient has to make the decision if they are awake.

She says she knew if Zimmerman was going to receive medical care, the police would take him.

O’Mara asks about Zimmerman’s ability to get up. She says he was sitting sideway in the police car with the door open and his feet out.

She says they asked him to stand to see if he still felt dizzy. O’Mara asks if he had assistance from an officer and firefighter.

He asks if she remembers Officer Smith helping Zimmerman out of the car.

She doesn’t remember.

O'Mara finishes. Guy re-directs.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:56 pm 
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chipbennett wrote:

Yes: one live round in the chamber.

So GZ stopped immediately when the threat stopped. It wasn't that the gun jammed, as this model is wont to do.

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So he handled the gun without glove, were his prints on the gun or holster?


Any chance that the defense calls his wife back to the stand, to ask if any of her husband's DNA was recovered from the gun or holster?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:02 pm 
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So far, Smith seems much more helpful to the defense, imo.

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flgirl543 wrote:
So he handled the gun without glove, were his prints on the gun or holster?


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Any chance that the defense calls his wife back to the stand, to ask if any of her husband's DNA was recovered from the gun or holster?


That would be a great idea... regardless of results.... but I assume NONE would show.

That would prove a point.. but Traybots would not grasp it.

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That would be a great idea... regardless of results.... but I assume NONE would show.


We already know that's what it would show, because we already know that no positive DNA was recovered from the gun.

Clearly, Ofc. Tim Smith is mistaken when he testified that he handled the gun.

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3:01 p.m.

Court takes a 15 minute recess.

3:00 p.m.

Guy asks him to hold up the gun, holster, magazine and rounds.

Smith says Officer Wagner took a picture of Zimmerman’s face. He says he was not aware of a civilian taking a picture of the back of Zimmerman’s head.

Guy shows a nighttime photo of the crime scene and the front of the houses.

He shows a daytime photo of the front entrance of the complex, the gates and the intersection going into the complex.

He shows more pictures of the front of the clubhouse, the mailbox kiosk, the rear gate.

Guy shows the pictures of Zimmerman with a bloody nose and back of the head.

Smith describes Zimmerman’s clothes from that night.

He says he didn’t see a tear in the jacket, but did notice the back was wetter than the front and there was grass.

He says Zimmerman’s pants were wetter in the back.

He took him to the police station, which took about 15 minutes.

He says Zimmerman said he felt light-headed. He asked if he wanted to go to the hospital. He responded that he wasn’t sure what he should do, but ultimately decided he didn’t want to go.

Smith says he parked in the sally port. He says Zimmerman did not show trouble balancing or walking.

Guy asks if Smith has seen the video of Zimmerman arriving at the station.

He says yes.

He took Zimmerman to an interview room on the second floor, Smith says.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the CSI Tech, Ofcr. Tim Smith's wife, that the Ofcr. gave the gun to.....didn't she testify there was no DNA on the gun...what about prints...any prints?

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I missed Jon Good's testimony, but I didn't see what NatJack Tweet:


"The defense is trying to IMPEACH there own "STAR WITNESS"

Did this happen?


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chipbennett wrote:
We already know that's what it would show, because we already know that no positive DNA was recovered from the gun.

Clearly, Ofc. Tim Smith is mistaken when he testified that he handled the gun.


This must be the WRONG Objectib Ebidence..... None of this stuff lines up with LIMPapa's video mashes at all.

I wonder if all those vids will be taken down from Youtube... or leave them there as a testimaent to Wilful Ignorance and Imprinting?

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flgirl543 wrote:
I missed Jon Good's testimony, but I didn't see what NatJack Tweet:


"The defense is trying to IMPEACH there own "STAR WITNESS"

Did this happen?

Jon tried very hard to help GZ as little as he truthfully could. Jon had requested to testify anonymously, presumably out of fear. So, defense just emphasized his actual testimony and read his statement into the record. It was the prosecution that tried to impeach him on re-direct.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:11 pm 
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flgirl543 wrote:
I missed Jon Good's testimony, but I didn't see what NatJack Tweet:


"The defense is trying to IMPEACH there own "STAR WITNESS"

Did this happen?
:lol

Of course not.

For a kick off... at the moment Good is State witness... Bernie had a bit of a go at impeaching his own witness ... AGAIN!

But MOM... was doing the opposite... explaining that changes from past statements were understandable, clarifications and supplemental info...


:fish STOP taking NastyJack seriously... she is Dim and challenged when it comes to the truth AND English comprehension!!

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Comments and recaps of Jon's testimony start a little over halfway down this page:

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Is this a pilot for the new,modern Candid Camera? We've been plunk'd!


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