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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:42 pm 
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West's questions in re: being in shock, having Manalo clarify what he meant by "not in shock" - i.e. Zimmerman was neither "bouncing off the walls" nor "numb/unresponsive", but was just "flat": appears to be West setting up testimony for a defense expert witness on shock/post-traumatic effects.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:46 pm 
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I think Fulton would love, love, love, love for Nelson to try to boot her. She'd get the "team" fired up again with major tearful pressers, maybe even marches.


I think they are being brought down a peg or two by the witnesses. Real depression has set in. After all, Sybrina looked terribly upset at Parks presser yesterday. Parks has had to say this was never about race. $$$$$ flying away?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:51 pm 
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So what's the state's purpose to use this witness? George wasn't in shock, he didn't care he shot someone...depraved mind? A stretch and a FAIL!

Trayvon's arms weren't outstretched as George description of stretching out the arms. Easy to prove he may not have died instantly. Didn't witness say yesterday say she saw leg move? Another FAIL!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:54 pm 
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Nelson over-ruling a ton of obvious objections for Bernie's modus operandi leading questions that mis-characterize previous testimony.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:54 pm 
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"At one point he became a wreck, yes." It just keeps getting better.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:56 pm 
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1:55 p.m.
West mentions Manalo’s wife testifying earlier this week. He confirms.

West says he like to clarify something. He asks about a picture showing Martin’s body and him being at about the spot he encountered Zimmerman.

Manalo says yes.

West objects to a leading question.

De la Rionda re-asks. West objects again saying it is a mis-characterization.

De la Rionda asks again. Manalo says he basically seemed calm.

De la Rionda demonstrates how Zimmerman might’ve been staggering.

Manalo confirms he asked about Zimmerman’s gun and his response that it was a 9 mm.

De la Rionda asks about Zimmerman saying self-defense.

He finishes questioning.

Manalo is excused from the witness stand.

1:49 a.m.
West asks Manalo about the pictures he took of Martin.

He shows them to the court.

West points out the flashlight seen in the picture showing Martin’s body. He points out that everything not illuminated by Manalo’s flashlight was “quite dark.”

Manalo says he took them while standing on the sidewalk. He says he was a few feet from the “T-intersection.”

West points out a porch light seen in the background “somewhere to the left” of Manalo’s unit.

1:43 p.m.
Manalo confirms the officer asked who shot, Zimmerman said he did, he raised his arm to expose the gun and cooperated with being handcuffed.

West asks him about calling Zimmerman’s wife.

Most of Manalo’s responses to West’s questions are “yes.”

West says De la Rionda suggested that Zimmerman was abrupt; but that he was making a point that he wasn’t shot.

West asks about Zimmerman seeming flat. Manalo replies “yes.”

Manalo says he doesn’t attend HOA meetings. West asks if his view was “mind your own business.” Manalo says there was a sign that said if there was a problem, to call 911.

West asks about the sign.

1:36 p.m.
West asks about him being in the living room, putting a table together and his wife looking outside.

Manalo says he was carefully walking toward the scene.

West asks about how long it took him to get there. He estimates 10 to 20 seconds.

Manalo says Zimmerman first caught his attention.

West asks if Manalo was fearful of Zimmerman. He says no. Manalo says Zimmerman wasn’t talking when he came around the corner, but had the phone to his ear.

Manalo says Zimmerman squatted down. West repeats that it was to try to collect himself.

West holds up an enlarged picture showing the back of Zimmerman’s head.

“Thankfuly, you did, but it was your decision,” West asks. Manalo says yes.

Manalo says Zimmerman told him the guy was beating him up and he had to shoot him.

West asks about Officer Tim Smith arriving at the scene. Manalo says he didn’t know his name.

He says he doesn’t remember the officer having a flashlight.

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So what's the state's purpose to use this witness? George wasn't in shock, he didn't care he shot someone...depraved mind? A stretch and a FAIL!

Trayvon's arms weren't outstretched as George description of stretching out the arms. Easy to prove he may not have died instantly. Didn't witness say yesterday say she saw leg move? Another FAIL!


TM's arms may not outstretched in SE 77 but without a doubt they aren't under his body as some have stated either.


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Nelson over-ruling a ton of obvious objections for Bernie's modus operandi leading questions that mis-characterize previous testimony.


It won't surprise me if one of these times Nelson blurts out, "Look, it's all he has... he has NO case..."

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Ok, let's all watch for the mad rush for the door...

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Prosecutor John Guy calls Ricardo Ayala, an officer with the Sanford Police Department.

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Witness: Ricardo Ayala

2:00 p.m.
Officer Ayala has been with the police department for 11 years. He responded to the shooting. He says the dispatch was first for a suspicious person. He was in the north end of the city at the time.

He received an update that shots had been fired.

Guy shows an aerial photo of the housing complex. He points out the route he took to get to the scene. He says he saw Officer Smith when he got out of his patrol car. He describes the lighting as "very dim" and "almost dark."

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Loss of potential windfall $$$$

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Even if you shoot someone straight through the heart, they may be up and running for another 30 seconds. That’s plenty of time to kill your ass. Strategically, you must remember your goal: shoot until the threat stops. Killing your assailant may—or may not be—a by-product of that process.


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He says he didn’t make contact with Zimmerman after he was secured.

O’Mara finishes questioning.

Guy asks about Zimmerman being held at gunpoint.

2:11 p.m.
Ayala says he knew when Officer Smith arrived at the scene. He says Zimmerman was still being held at gunpoint. O’Mara asks if it is protocol to take out their weapon when responding to a “shots fired” call. Ayala says yes.

O’Mara demonstrates having a cell phone in his hand and what officers want to happen when they say “show me your hands.”

He drops his phone on the floor.

Ayala says the gun has a flashlight on it.

O’Mara asks about Ayala’s report saying he was protecting Officer Smith. He says yes.

Ayala says he had his weapon out and had his eyes on Zimmerman and Martin and when Zimmerman was secured he focused on Martin.

He says he was mostly focused on security for the officer.

Ayala says Zimmerman was compliant and did everything officers asked.

He says he can’t say he noticed the blood on Zimmerman.

2:06 p.m.
Ayala points out Zimmerman as he stands.

Ayala says he was focused on the male on the ground. He says Martin was face down with his hands under him. He says he was the first person to approach Martin.

He says he asked to see Martin’s hands. He says Martin did not respond to his commands. He did not see any movement or hear any sounds from Martin.

He says Sgt. Ramondo approached him and he tried to check for a pulse.

He says they turned him onto his back.

He says the gunshot wound was under a button on his shirt. Ayala says when they moved the sweater and shirt they found the wound.

Ayala says he and Ramondo performed CPR and Ramondo asked for a plastic bag of some sort and someone provided it.

Ayala says no in response to seeing signs of life from Martin’s body at any time.

Martin was pronounced dead at the scene, Ayala says.

He says crime scene technicians arrived while he was still there, but he did not have any other involvement with the case.

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Stacey Livingston takes the stand. She works for the Sanford Fire Department as Firefighter/EMT.

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Damn George...why didn't you get beat up more...


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If Trayvon had continued to beat on George until he went into a coma and the police arrived on the scene, what would have happened?

Police to TM: What happened?

Trayvon: the creepy ass cracker pervert asked me a question. In my "culture" a "beat down" is normal...


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