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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:45 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
How come they did not have an interpreter for Dee Dee

I thought MOM hired his own, has him at their rear table. :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:45 pm 
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Is this witness white, white/Hispanic, Hispanic, black/Hispanic, black or will they decide after she completes her testimony?


Her testimony will determine.... :)

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mung wrote:
I guess they are trying to make up for us having to stare at the "Star" witness for so long by letting us see the hotties now.

Definately an improvement, just as the last witness was also.


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Oh my... I go afk for just a little while... and MOM provides an excuse to Nelson to allow BDLR to falsely smear GZ...

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4:45 p.m.
She says she was home the evening of the shooting, along with Mary.

Her children were with their father. Mary’s daughter was the oldest daughter of her former husband.

She says it was rainy and dark.

She says she heard a crying sound as she was in the kitchen.

4:43 p.m.
Guy asks her where she lived in Feb. 2012.

She says she lived at Retreat at Twin Lakes with her two children and a female friend, named Mary.

Her children were 9 and 14 years old.

Mary’s daughter was 8 years old.

Guy shows her residence on a diagram and she confirms.

4:40 p.m.
Guy questions Selma Mora, who says she lives in Miami. She says she is a U.S. citizen. She is a native of Columbia. She says she speaks some English, but is more comfortable with an interpreter.

She says she is an architect and interior designer.

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kbp wrote:
I thought MOM hired his own, has him at their rear table. :)


That's a young lawyer who just graduated from law school and is good with computers. MOM probably gave him a job until he passes the bar.


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chipbennett wrote:
I'll predicate this by saying that I don't think that O'Mara asking a witness about personal opinion regarding Zimmerman opens the door to irrelevant past character evidence. That said:

Theory: O'Mara asked those questions intentionally to get BDLR to try to introduce irrelevant evidence, because he's going to use Nelson's ruling in favor of proffering that evidence as rationale to recall Witness 8, and use her previous on-stand statements about "just a fight" (and related) to introduce Martin's character evidence with respect to fighting.

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She says the kitchen window was half-way open.

Guy asks if there was background noise when she heard the crying sound.

Mora says no.

She demonstrates the crying sound.

She describes it as soft.

She says she could not make out any words.

Mora says it was too dark to see anything.

After the crying sound, she says she heard a “dry” sound she describes as a “child falling.”

She says it’s like a longboard being bounced on.

Mora says she didn’t hear the crying sounds after that.

She says she ran to her back porch to the screen.

The purpose of the screen was to keep her daughter's dog from going out, she says.

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Selma "dolled up" her additional 15 minutes of fame .... can't wait for Cutcher's dress style


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realitycheck wrote:
Selma "dolled up" her additional 15 minutes of fame .... can't wait for Cutcher's dress style


I know. She looks a bit different from her performance as one of Crump's "useful idiots". LOL


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She describes GZ as walking around like this....

It's lucky he wasn't arrested for soliciting....

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kbp wrote:
I thought MOM hired his own, has him at their rear table. :)


murderbythebook wrote:
That's a young lawyer who just graduated from law school and is good with computers. MOM probably gave him a job until he passes the bar.

Was joke. Someone had posted that early on in the trial when we first noticed the IT experienced young graduate.


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Your honor, may I approach? Pretty please?


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5:02 p.m.
She says the little amount of light could not let her identify the person’s race.

Mora says the clothing of the person on top was some sort of pattern of blacks and reds.

She says the person on top must’ve been supported by the person on the ground because she mostly observed his right hand side.

The person was almost stooping over, she says.

She says she didn’t hear the person on top say anything.

The person on the bottom was lying down, she says.

Mora says she couldn’t tell the person on the bottom’s gender.

She says the leg moved of the person on the bottom, “like a shudder.”

She asked “What’s going on?” in English.

Guy asks her to say it for the court.

She says the person on top turned and looked at her and she asked again.

The person didn’t respond. She says she asked again and the person responded saying to call the police.

Guy asks if she say the person on top or bottom get up.

She says the one on top did.

Mora says the person took a few steps in toward the dog receptacle.

She says she could tell the person was a man.

He walked for a few steps toward the receptacle and he put his hand on his head and his other hand was on his waist, she says.

Guy has her demonstrate.

4:55 p.m.
She says if she had thought the sound was a gunshot she would not have run out.

O’Mara asks for clarification about the sounds.

Guy asks if the sounds she heard from the kitchen came from which direction?

She says the right.

She says she saw people to the right when she went out to look.

Guy points out on a diagram her residence, where the people were, and a porch at 2831.

Guy shows a daytime photo of the houses showing her residence. He points out hers.

She says one of the people was on the ground and the other was “on top in a position like a rider.”

Mora says she couldn’t tell the gender of the person on top.

She says the person was facing toward the dog waste receptacle.

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Wasn't this chickie speaking English better than #8 when standing with her roommate and Crump in the media?

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kbp wrote:
Is this witness white, white/Hispanic, Hispanic, black/Hispanic, black or will they decide after she completes her testimony?


That ruling is pending the growing back out of her natural hair color.


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She says she did not see the man stumble or hear him say anything.

Guy asks if she saw someone with a flashlight outside.

Mora says yes, but her female friend was screaming behind her because it was a gunshot and she felt like she wanted to go in the house. A female

neighbor tried to go outside, but she screamed that she should go back because of the shooting, and then she ran inside.

The female friend was Mary. She says Mary was on the phone in the living room with 911.

Mora says she and Mary stayed at her house that evening and the police closed the back area of the houses and Mary did most of the speaking to the officers.

She says she didn’t speak to police that night, but an agent gave her a paper to write something down.

Mora say Mary did so because she was trying to contact her former husband to not bring the children home.

She says it might’ve been 4 days later that she talked to police.

She never met Martin or Zimmerman, she says.

She says she lived in that unit since 2007.

Guy finishes questioning. O'Mara begins cross-examination.

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