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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:44 pm 
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This Frye hearing has me stepping back to view what all is going on.

For months on end many talked how the Scheme Team goal was ONLY to get it to trial and avoid what we called the Stand Your Ground issue that would prevent a lawsuit against George. We moved on to a bit of micro-focus on phases of an upcoming trial, especially after MOM made us all aware of the fact that he was using a self-defense strategy for the trial, no SYG or whatever.

Looking back... if the Scheme Team's goal is a civil case from a trial, not a guilty verdict, but just to keep the door open for them, and the state is stuck playing their hand after they jumped in with both feet to help the Scheme Team, Nelson may have to give Bernie his voice whatever experts. Bernie has to have someone testify to drag out a second act, and DeeDee is not that great of a candidate.

I say that thinking a show of some miserable evidence for trial helps to cover the state, and leaves a good chance the Scheme Team will not have their goal eliminated in this trial. Nelson will probably leave MOM with the option of dropping the sanctions or appealing her ruling, she's out then.


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All these hearings with all these audio experts, and nobody yet gets asked about "the grass thing". W8 said you can hear the grass thing. Audio experts should be able to explain exactly what is "the grass thing".


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:53 pm 
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Add: Make a list of who does NOT want a trial:

1. Zimmerman family
2. MOM
2. ____________
3. ____________


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I think your question is a bit ambiguous.

Ideally, I want charges to have never been laid.

From where we are I want the trial to be done as soon as possible.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:19 pm 
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Bigboi likes to tweet the time that George's Curfew takes effect each day, so in reply.....



It appears that Bigboi has once again fallen into an alcohol induced coma and stopped tweeting for the day
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It is safe for intelligent, informed, sane people to discuss the GZ case on twitter... for a few hours
. :cool



If only Bigboi had kept her dog under control, when she was ordered to... Trayvon would still be alive..

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:51 pm 
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Rumpole wrote:
I think your question is a bit ambiguous.

Ideally, I want charges to have never been laid.

From where we are I want the trial to be done as soon as possible.

Considering what we hope is exposed by the trial somehow, I suspected even most supporting GZ want to see all of the truth come out at a trial, possibly even George now.


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Looks like MOM has been informed.. in case he did not know

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Are they sure they actually closed the deal? I know from experience that selling software to the military can be a lengthy and frustrating process. FARs - Federal Acquisition Regulations


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:43 am 
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At the link quoted it does say "intends to purchase" and "proposed".... language not absolute, but I would take it as a done deal with a normal purchaser?

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity ... ode=list&=

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Naval Criminal Investigative Services (NCIS) intends to award a sole source award to Tracer Technologies, Inc at PO Box 189 Windsor, Pennsylvania 17366 in accordance with FAR 6.302-1 only one source. The proposed acquisition is to purchase Easy Voice Biometrics software that is used for voice identification and analysis. The Easy Voice Biometrics product is designed for Law Enforcement Agencies to perform multiple tasks. This requirement will result in a Firm-Fixed price contract to Tracer Technologies, Inc. The North American Industry Classification System (NAICS) is 541990. The determination not to compete the requirement will be at the sole discretion of the Government.

Please refer questions in writing to the Chrystal Pierce, Purchasing Agent, at email: chrystal.pierce.ctr@navy.mil

Contracting Office Address:

N63285 Naval Criminal Investigative Service Russell Knox Bldg 27130 Telegraph Rd Quantico, VA 22134

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This requirement will result in a Firm-Fixed price contract to Tracer Technologies, Inc.


I once attempted to negotiate a bulk software contract with the Pentagon for about 6 months before the software company got sick of being jerked around and told the Pentagon to go fly a kite. A few months later the Pentagon came back begging and bought the software at full retail price pursuant to the company's standard agreement.


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The determination not to compete the requirement will be at the sole discretion of the Government.


I just checked the site and it does indeed refer to a determination not to compete (I thought at first there was a typo and it should have read "complete"). So does this translate as saying that there's no competition, i.e., this is the only program they're interested in purchasing and the only vendor they're interested in purchasing it from? Perhaps John Galt can enlighten us.

Seems to me that if all was aboveboard, the persecution would've been only too happy to trumpet this sale (or potential sale) as giving credence to the "expert" witness. Or has the GZ case made me unduly cynical about pretty much everything to do with the gov't, the media, and the legal system?


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Seems to me that if all was aboveboard, the persecution would've been only too happy to trumpet this sale (or potential sale) as giving credence to the "expert" witness.


Indeed, BDLR would be strutting and crowing. Owen, however, might owe a fee to his software supplier based on sales, and might not want to blow a trumpet.


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I assume the "BDLR helped Owen" refers to "young pup assistant prosecutor".. on behalf of BDLR?

Owen SUPER evasive about finances on cross by West, and then...... "over 3 years made $5000"

"Are you aware of any been sold after published use in Sentinal article"

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN TRIAL COVERAGE 6.7.13 PT. 2





Then, on redirect by the pup.......

At 4:07 mark

Pup:“A year and a half since you rendered decision…. No huge influx in sales from time you rendered the opinion…”

Owen:"Ha ha there is always hope"

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN TRIAL COVERAGE 6.7.13 PT. 6

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From CTH.....

James F says:
June 9, 2013 at 2:24 am

Impeach witness with prior inconsistent statement.
The witness testified that he had not sold any of his ezbake software. If proven that he actually has sold it to NCIS, he committed perjury and is barred from testifying.

If BDLR had knowledge of this sale, then he sat there like a potted palm and led the court down a primrose path.

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Wayman VS Owen – Voice Identification Experts Set to Square Off Monday…
Posted on June 9, 2013 by sundance

In April of 2012 The Daily Caller Author, Chuck Rudd, interviewed Dr. James L Wayman who is scheduled to deliver expert testimony with regard to voice analytics and biometrics, on behalf of the Zimmerman defense team, tomorrow (Monday).


The prosecution expert, Tom Owen, was paid last year by the Orlando Sentinel to deliver his opinion regarding the 911 tapes and the voices for help. In his prior column Rudd Shared:

    [Excerpt ...] Dr. James Wayman, a San Jose State University expert in the field of speech science, told The Daily Caller that he questions the grounds on which Owen based his analysis.

    Wayman also said he would be willing to testify against the admissibility of Owen’s findings on the grounds that they don’t meet the criteria required for evidence in federal courts.



...more at link
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... ff-monday/

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John_Galt wrote:
Indeed, BDLR would be strutting and crowing. Owen, however, might owe a fee to his software supplier based on sales, and might not want to blow a trumpet.


Ah well, I guess maybe I'm getting too suspicious in my old age, then, JG. See, I was following a line of thought that ran something like: "Wow, NCIS are interested in buying his crappy program? So why isn't BDLR using that to boost the guy's credibility?...Maybe the (prospective) purchase isn't aboveboard. Hmmm...Maybe this is a way of slipping the guy some extra money for a more favourable report, or maybe they don't want to admit to paying him at all, for some reason. Can BDLR or Corey or any of that crowd pull strings at NCIS? Or maybe pull strings of people who can pull strings there?...Does the date of the agreement to the prospective purchase precede the date of Owen's report, and if so, by how much? Is it normal for NCIS to arrange a prospective purchase w/o getting other, more competitive prices (no compete clause)? Is it normal for them to arrange a prospective contract when there's only one prospective vendor noted on the relevant tab? Is that vendor legitimate? Is he pro-TM?" etc etc.

Maybe I need to invest in a new tinfoil hat.


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Was not that only a notice of a non-compete purchase contracted with a pass-thru vendor (DBE)?


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DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO PROHIBIT SPECTATORS FROM WEARING ITEMS THAT DEPICT SUPPORT


http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0613/mo ... ohibit.pdf

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