Thanks for letting me know how you really feel. I won't use the words narcissist or sociopath again.

You are correct Mal (Isn't Goggle marvelous)

That is my point... people ARE mixtures of personality traits... and what is a negative in one person can quite easily be a positive in another. A proper assessment requires careful clinical interviews, tests, other evidence....

Having seen what a "pig's mess" "experts" like Alyce and Peter and Dr Krapp can make of an assessment... even with their training... it should give pause when an amateur poster/psychologist makes a "diagnosis" based on a few news reports and their own creative imagination

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MM you know Jodi personally? You nailed her - at least one of her "personalities".

(Tried to quote - having trouble. Says can only quote ONCE? That's all I did - once.)

I want to see that film too ... Looking For Bobby Fisher.

We all do it

I guess I am just saying that popular usage of terms should not be confused with an actual diagnosis by a psychologist.

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Here is the clip - it's kind of confusing the way Martinez words it, but later, DeMarte did say she did NOT supervise her. I believe Martinez was saying, "did you supervise people LIKE LaViolette (who had a Masters Degree)."

MM

Your brother sounds great. Lucky you. Yes, see the movie. It is really good.


Edit: Mal's cousin & Joni's brother

I know! And yes it is.


Many years ago my coworkers and I tried to figure out which personality disorder our boss suffers from. That's when I learned about the different clusters. And that all the clusters apply to him... and we (his employees) are clusterfucked.

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OK thanks. I've got it.

I have done the full MMPI test... 500+ questions.. and scored it and I KNOW I am nuts

But nowhere near as bad a Jodi



I think "Borderline Personality Disorder" is spot on.

My diagnosis of "Nut job" was dead accurate

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Thinking people just HAVE to think and wonder ...
That's just the way it is! They can't help it.

Jodi developed her word skills by reading I guess?
We can read and learn too.

A Shrink friend, not my childhood neighbor, but a "follower - fan" I guess you could call him, told me to get the book
"The Mask Of Sanity". I was wondering about my husband at the time. Loved that book. It is a teaching
book and almost anyone can understand it.
MHO

I Wonder, I Wonder Can't Help It If I Wonder

Did DeMarte mention anything about narcissism in her diagnosis of Jodi?

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If she doesn't have a diagnosis of NPD she certainly has narcissistic traits.

R. Approximately how long does it take to complete that MMPI test?

Do you have to do it all at once? Can you do it piece-meal?

Expert Witness in Arias trial has laptop stolen.

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/21010 ... urglarized

Joni.

It was a LONG time ago.

But as I recall its all done in one sitting? Analysis takes longer than sitting the test.. There is lots of subscales to look at etc... it was a big project to do and write a full report.... And IIRC... only did some parts of analysis not everything.

500 questions sounds a lot, but they are all True/false questions .. so can be done quickly. With most psychological tests it is best to NOT agonise and over-think answers... in fact that can be detrimental to result validity... you instruct people to answer quickly.


So I would guess it takes an hour? to do...... some results straight away but proper analysis takes time.

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PHOENIX - A key witness in the Jodi Arias case called Phoenix Police Wednesday morning to report her home was broken into and burglarized. We're told key information in the case may have been stolen.

Dr. Janeen Demarte is an expert witness for the prosecution. Sources tell us her laptop was stolen. In that laptop was a psychological profile of Jodi Arias.

"It seems very suspicious. It could just a normal home burglary but this Dr. Demarte has been listed as an expert witness in publicly filed documents for over two years now, so who knows?"

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HOW FILTY DIRTY THEY ARE!
Not a coincidence I would say!

I KNEW they were dirty, but NOT THIS DIRTY!

So when she testified today, they already had it?

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Afternoon/Morning, Everyone!


Since the laptop contained DeMarte's Psychological Profile/Report of Jodi, some are suspecting Donovan of the dirty deed.

WildAboutTrial WildAboutTrial 20m
I heard one spectator ask about Alyce and what happened to her showing up on Tuesday. Valerie was not allowed to answer.