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5:02 p.m. ET: The attorneys are at a sidebar with the judge. :63

5:01 p.m. ET: Samuels said he could have diagnosed Arias with PTSD without testing.

4:59 p.m. ET: Willmott is asking Samuels if Arias was already cultivating a relationship with another man around the time of Alexander's death. Samuel's said he was aware she was beginning a relationship with Ryan Burns. He also said Arias had moved hundreds miles away from Alexander months before his death. He said these things are not indicative of jealousy.

4:56 p.m. ET: Samuels said he did not think Arias was jealous Alexander was taking another woman to Cancun around the time of his death.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:09 pm 
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..... :TF

Mr. Samuels, since it looks like both you and Jodi are "thrown off" by Mr. Martinez, would you classify both of you as 'birds of a feather'?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:11 pm 
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Forget about "fight or flight"

In Arizona is there a choice.... "needle or fry"

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5:08 p.m. ET: Arias told Samuels she tried to put distance between her and Alexander during the alleged attack.

5:06 p.m. ET: Samuels comparing a human in fight or flight mode to a corned animal. The instinct is to run, but when cornered they will fight back. He said it is hard to predict, because it is not rational.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:14 pm 
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Geeze - is putting the camera in the washer rational in a flight or fight situation? No, it's STUPID. She was trying to destroy evidence (after RATIONALLY deleting all the pictures), not knowing they could still be retrieved by forensic experts. STUPID.


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..... :98

Dr. Samuels says he diagnosed Jodi with an "Anxiety Disorder"...BUT wouldn't anyone after doing a killing have anxiety...a NORMAL response whether done in self-defense or not?

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5:13 p.m. ET:

The decision making [during the fight or flight response] is basically occurring on the instinctual survival level. It’s typically not associated with higher level processing,” said Samuels.

5:11 p.m. ET: Willmott asked if Arias putting Alexander's camera in washing machine was rational. Martinez objected to question, and now the attorneys are at a sidebar with the judge.


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5:15 p.m. ET: Willmott asked Samuels if has had a situation where a client refused to tell him the truth. He said he has had that happen with adolescents, but most of the time it has been resolved.


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..... :HSG

One might say that a .25 caliber gun is a girl's gun, a wimpy gun. Big ole Travis wouldn't be caught dead in his house with only a gun like that (and no ammo) .....unless Jodi the girl brought it in. And wa'laa, that's just what happened.

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WHAT is THIS all about?
This supposed PTSD defense, is only to excuse Jodi from having to explain the details of the slaughter?
How clever! They wanted it both ways... that defense, BUT she would have to tell the nitty gritty.
I plead the Fog, Smog, Gap, Crap!
MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING!!!

No wonder a woman threw up. The first of many ... maybe.

I guess her crew NEVER HEARD of the TRUTH? What would be wrong in telling the truth? She was so jealous that he was taking another girl to Cancun (after her day of sex enticement FAILED), she flipped out and slaughtered him! Better defense? That would be #4.


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I wish the ONLY question they asked was: What does PTSD that occurred after the murder have to do with the murder and everything leading up to the murder?


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As my father used to say: This guy can talk the ass off a snake!


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Joni wrote:
WHAT is THIS all about?
This supposed PTSD defense, is only to excuse Jodi from having to explain the details of the slaughter?
How clever! They wanted it both ways... that defense, BUT she would have to tell the nitty gritty.
I plead the Fog, Smog, Gap, Crap!
MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING!!!

No wonder a woman threw up. The first of many ... maybe.

I guess her crew NEVER HEARD of the TRUTH? What would be wrong in telling the truth? She was so jealous that he was taking another girl to Cancun(after her day of sex enticement FAILED), she flipped out and slaughtered him! Better defense? That would be #4.



..... :98 You're absolutely right. The ONLY reason to have this man on the stand is to justify Jodi's forgetting all the bloody details of the murder. But what does that help??? I don't see that her forgetting OR remembering the details relevant at all. This 'testimony' is a huge waste of time and money.

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I wish the ONLY question they asked was: What does PTSD that occurred after the murder have to do with the murder and everything leading up to the murder?


..... :98 I would LOVE to hear Samuels' answer to that question!!!!!!!!!!!!

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5:24 p.m. ET: Samuels is now explaining the complicated process of how the MCMI is scored, and how it ensures an accurate outcome.

5:22 p.m. ET: Willmott is now asking Samuels about the PTSD test named MCMI. Samuels said it was created in the 1970's and it is updated regularly.

5:20 p.m ET: Willmott asked Samuels if Arias would have been able to make a phone call while in the fight or flight response.

“When you’re under threat, you’re under threat and milliseconds count. So to interrupt what you’re doing, pull out a phone and dial someone, or 911 or whatever, it is not, in itself, possible under those circumstances,” said Samuels.

5:18 p.m. ET: Samuels said did not have push Arias to tell him that she allegedly killed Alexander in self-defense. Arias eventually told Samuels on her own about how she allegedly had to defend herself.

“The most I would do is say, ‘Are you sure that’s what happened?’ But I didn’t want to push it because I was taking the view that this was likely a psychological defense mechanism and I didn’t want to push her into having to confront the very stimuli that I hypothesized would have caused this new alternative reality. However, on her own, she finally changed her story,” said Samuels.


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rtmember wrote:
Remote wrote:
I wish the ONLY question they asked was: What does PTSD that occurred after the murder have to do with the murder and everything leading up to the murder?


..... :98 I would LOVE to hear Samuels' answer to that question!!!!!!!!!!!!

I suppose we'll just have to be happy with his reply of " Her having PTSD doesn't mean a free get-out-of-jail pass."

(Did you see Willmott's face when he said that?? ---> :13 )


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This is tedious

How long before Martinez gets to rip him a new one again?

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