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PostPosted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:15 pm 
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Dayton teen beaten to death had troubled past

Judge says Franklin men could face capital punishment

Updated: 2:10 p.m. Wednesday, Dec. 4, 2013 | Posted: 3:42 p.m. Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2013
By Lauren Pack and Katie Wedell Staff Writer

Bond was set Tuesday at $1 million each for two Franklin men accused of beating a Dayton teen to death while robbing him for drugs and money.

Michael A. Geldrich, 36, and Michael J. Watson, 39, both of Franklin, appeared for a video arraignment at 3 p.m. in Franklin Municipal Court where they were issued court-appointed attorneys. The men, who are charged with aggravated robbery and murder, are being housed at the Warren County Jail.

Judge Rupert Ruppert set a preliminary hearing for Dec. 10 and said the case could go directly to a grand jury. He told the defendants that depending on the grand jury’s determination, this could become a death penalty case.

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This case involving rape and murder of Dione Payne is the latest "cause célèbre" at InSession2 (formerly Justice Quest).
Lots of Daft posting from the usual daft posters (Traybot Worriers) and the case filed under "crimes against children".. and a "victim" decreed :roll
We even have family releasing a photo of 12 year old cherub.. whereas the deceased was in fact an apparent scumbag, drug dealer (certainly NOT a 12 year old child), who looked very different in photos from his own social media. (ring any bells?)

Family Released photo ............Dione Payne in 2012.
12 year old Dione..................Dione Payne's Facebook page.
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Over at InSession2 (formerly Justice Quest).... "Victim bashing" is causing dissension and complaints amongst the Traybot Worriers.... but rational assessments are not shut down.... YET! :)
Good 'ole "pixies" is on to it :86
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..and now 16 year old's cannot be drug dealers!!?!?!?

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Twist it until something clicks.

He was a drug dealer. He was a criminal who died while committing a crime. He also took a gun and tried to shoot someone in the past so you have a 16 year old thug with guns and drugs.



I am not sure the case warrants an RT thread of it's own? But I am open to a request. :cool
To discuss the case and NOT the daft at JQ

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As I predicted... the FALSE narrative of a 12 year old cheub "victim" has been presented to the gullible, daft old dears... and they are lapping it up... IMPRINTED with a false impression as they were (and still are) in regards the TM case

This pic is a pic supplied by the family.. of a 12 year old... Dione aged 16 looks VERY different in his own fb pics.

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Thanks to pixies for posting link to Payne's fb :86

https://www.facebook.com/dione.payne.14 ... wse_search

(You need to be logged on at fb yourself to view)

And thanks to "KrimeKat" for bumping the link :give

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"self" tattooed on his right forearm and "made" tattooed on his left forearm

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One of the accused... Michael Geldrich

His Previous and mugshot
http://www.whosarrested.com/ohio/warren ... eldrich-sr

His Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/michael.geldrich?fref=ts

The Girlfriend's facebook
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The Preliminary Hearing is scheduled for Dec. 10...... Tuesday

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Miami County Sheriff Charles A. Cox - Persons Currently In Custody

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http://miami.miamivalleyjails.org/JAILB ... D=24510850

AGG. MURDER/AGGRAVATED ROBBERY - Court date:12/10/13, 05:30 PM

PROBATION VIOLATION - Waiting hearing

The charges do not seem to include any reference to rape or any sexual violation?

Not seen any info on Michael Watson?

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I don't care that he got dropped for drugs and dealing. What pisses me off is that they raped him. No one age, sex religious affinity, race should ever have to go through that.


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ALLEGED rape... what if anything actually happened?

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ALLEGED rape... what if anything actually happened?


Well, sometime in the next week they should be getting the autopsy reports. And you are correct on the allegedly. Sorry I see red on rape.

Like I said. Sorry he got killed over drugs but he was a hot mess. Talked about getting killed in a drive-by. That didn't happen.


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No sympathy from me. He was a drug dealing thug. You live by the sword, you die by the sword.


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I see a lost soul at InSession2 (formerly Justice Quest)
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Been searching and nothing posted yet on the court for today. I really wish we could find the police report. Am assuming its public since the newspaper was getting info from it?


The hearing today is at 5:30PM
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And following that hearing....

Cases of 2 Franklin men accused in teen’s beating death sent to grand jury
Posted: 7:12 p.m. Tuesday, Dec. 10, 2013
By Lauren Pack, Staff Writer

FRANKLIN — A Warren County grand jury will now consider the cases of two Franklin men accused of beating a Dayton teen to death during a robbery.

Michael A. Geldrich, 36, and Michael J. Watson, 39, who are both being held on $1 million bonds, appeared in Franklin Municipal Court on Tuesday evening. After a preliminary hearing, Judge Rupert Ruppert found sufficient evidence to send the cases to a grand jury.

The men, who are charged with aggravated robbery and murder, are being housed at the Warren County Jail.

Geldrich and Watson planned the robbery of Dione Payne, 16, of Dayton, who had been staying at Geldrich’s house on Vernon Street, according to a sworn affidavit signed Dec. 2 by Franklin Detective Jeff Stewart.

“During the robbery Geldrich struck the male victim (later identified as Payne) with a table leg, fists, stomped the male with his boots and repeatedly struck the male victim’s head against the floor,” Stewart said in the affidavit obtained exclusively by this newspaper.

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There is NO MENTION of rape or any sexual assault...

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There is NO MENTION of rape or any sexual assault...


Too true!!! Happy it wasn't true and just a rumor.

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The story mentions again "....teen appeared to have been sexually assaulted, according to the police report."

But I guess Medical examiners did not confirm that?

Never fear Deb... RAPE is imprinted on the Traybot Worriers... it will continue to be a talking point and "Real" in their minds :)

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H/T pixies......Dione Payne's Mother...

Tamiko Payne - facebook
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Two suspects in Dayton teen beating case appear in court Tuesday
Dec 11, 2013

FRANKLIN, Ohio -- The two men who face robbery and murder charges from a fatal beating incident involving a 16-year-old Dayton boy appeared before Judge Rupert Ruppert Tuesday afternoon.

Michael Geldrich, 36, appeared in the courtroom with a host of security, along with his fellow accused, Michael J. Watson, 39.

In the hearing, Franklin Detective Jeff Stewart said Watson told him Geldrich sent a text message saying he wanted to beat the victim, Dione Payne, over drugs and money.

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New details emerge in teen’s beating death
Updated: 3:07 p.m. Wednesday, Dec. 11, 2013 | Posted: 7:12 p.m. Tuesday, Dec. 10, 2013
By Lauren Pack Staff Writer

FRANKLIN — A Warren County grand jury will now consider the cases of two Franklin men accused of beating a Dayton teen to death during a robbery.

Michael A. Geldrich, 36, and Michael J. Watson, 39, who are both being held on $1 million bonds, appeared in Franklin Municipal Court on Tuesday evening. After a preliminary hearing, Judge Rupert Ruppert found sufficient evidence to send the cases to a grand jury.

The men, who are charged with aggravated robbery and murder, were transported from the Warren County Jail in Lebanon for the short hearing. Both were shackled and handcuffed during the proceeding.

Geldrich and Watson planned the robbery of Dione Payne, 16, of Dayton, who had been staying at Geldrich’s house on Vernon Street, according to a sworn affidavit signed Dec. 2 by Franklin Detective Jeff Stewart.

A few details of that alleged plan emerged during the preliminary hearing when Stewart took the stand.

Watson, known as Jay to friends and family, was living in a shed on Victoria Street when he got a text message during the early morning hours of Dec. 1 from Geldrich, Stewart said.

During questioning by the detective, Watson said Geldrich told him he wanted to “rob this dude who was staying at the house.”

Watson said the original plan was to throw a pillow case over Payne’s head, rob him of his “dope and money” then take him some place and leave him.

That plan changed when Watson asked Geldrich if he really thought Payne would just let him put a pillow case over his head, Stewart said Watson told him.

Watson told Stewart that Geldrich then picked up a table leg at the garage of his Vernon Street residence, went into the house where Payne was asleep sitting up on the couch and hit the teen twice in the face, the detective said.

“He (Watson) heard (Payne) gasp, then he said Geldrich threw him on the floor and continued to assault him.”

Watson said Geldrich did not want Payne to know he was the person who robbed him, so his role was to be the voice in the room asking where the money and drug were. The pillow case was placed over Payne’s head after he was on the floor.

Stewart said Watson did not indicate they got anything from Payne, but Geldrich said they took heroin, cocaine and $250 in cash from Payne.

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Michael A. Geldrich, 36, of Franklin, appeared in Franklin Municipal Court Tuesday, Dec. 10, 2013. Geldrich is charged with aggravated murder
and aggravated robbery in connection to the beating death of a 16-year-old boy from Dayton. NICK DAGGY / STAFF



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, 39, of Franklin, appeared in Franklin Municipal Court Tuesday, Dec. 10, 2013. Watson is charged with aggravated murder
and aggravated robbery in connection to the beating death of a 16-year-old boy from Dayton. NICK DAGGY / STAFF

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