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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:14 pm 
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Judge grants motions for defense in Travon Martin case
Updated: 2:55 p.m. Friday, Oct. 19, 2012 | Posted: 7:27 a.m. Friday, Oct. 19, 2012

SANFORD, Fla. —

Attorneys for George Zimmerman argued for the right to subpoena the social media accounts of Trayvon Martin and also asked for more time to interview state witnesses in the high-profile murder case.

Judge Debra S. Nelson granted motions for the defense to subpoena Martin's school records, cellphone records, Facebook and Twitter accounts on Friday. The defense will also get to subpoena for Martin's friend's Facebook and Twitter accounts.

Prosecutors were granted access to Zimmerman's medical records, but only after they are reviewed by the judge.

The hearing came two days after she set a tentative start date for Zimmerman's trial in the February fatal shooting death of the unarmed 17-year-old.

Prosecutors said they have records that show Zimmerman was treated for those injuries in the days after the attack, but they wanted more details about his medical history.

The state filed a motion to get a gag order in the case.

That will be heard on the next court date, which is scheduled for Oct. 26.

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/sev ... ase/nShMq/

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:29 pm 
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Live Blog: George Zimmerman in court
By Graham Winch
updated 3:08 PM EDT, Fri October 19, 2012

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2012/10/19 ... rman-court

3:07 p.m. ET: Zimmmerman leaves the courtroom.

3:00 p.m. ET: The hearing has concluded.

2:59 p.m. ET: Nelson moves on to the state's motion for a gag order. O'Mara says he is not prepared to address that issue. The state says they have no problem with delaying with that issue later. Nelson says they can bring up the issue at the hearing on October 26.

2:58 p.m. ET: Another hearing is scheduled for December 11.

2:57 p.m. ET: The parties are trying to decide on a date for a hearing in November.

2:56 p.m. ET: Nelson is still scheduling future hearings.

2:55 p.m. ET: Next hearing scheduled next Friday, October 26 at 1:30 p.m. ET.

2:53 p.m. ET: Nelson moves on to scheduling future hearings.

2:52 p.m. ET: Nelson says these documents will not be sealed.

2:51 p.m. ET: O'Mara says he is only asking that no one talk to the witnesses before they can depose them.

2:50 p.m. ET: Rionda says he wants time to respond to emergency motion in writing and wants the documents regarding this sealed as of now.

2:47 p.m. ET: Rionda says he objects to the defense's emergency motion. Rionda says he would prefer to deal with this emergency motion after dealing with his gag order request. Nelson says she wants to give the prosection more time to review the emergency motion. Nelson says the defense is asking that the witnesses be sequestered before the give their depositions.

2:41 p.m. ET: O'Mara has an emergency motion for a protective order, and Nelson says she won't deal with the motion until she and the prosecutors have a chance to read it. Nelson is reading it now.

2:41 p.m. ET: Nelson moves on to the defense's request to schedule future hearings.

2:40 p.m. ET: The defense is trying to ask Crump questions about the FBI involvement. Nelson stops it, and says, "We are not here to depose Crump."

2:38 p.m. ET: Martin's family was apparently involved with this interview. The Martin Family attorney Ben Crump is addressing the court right now, and says that he will provide all the information he can to the court regarding the interview. Nelson asks Crump to provide a list of everyone present during the interview, and apparently the FBI was involved with this interview. Again, we do not know what was discussed during the interview in question.

2:33 p.m. ET: Zimmerman's attorneys want more information about an interview ABC conducted shortly after Martin's death that was about a phone call between Martin and his girlfriend shortly before he died. Attorneys are not giving a lot details about the interview or who was interviewed or what was presented during the interview.

2:29 p.m. ET: Zimmerman's attorneys says they need these addresses for the defense to learn more about the context of the witnesses lives.

2:24 p.m. ET: CNN reached out to Facebook for a comment on the subpoenas in that will be issued in the Zimmerman case, and the representative would not comment on the case.

2:23 p.m. ET: Rionda says he is concerned for the safety to every witness, and he doesn't know why the defense needs addresses to all the family members of every witness.

2:16 p.m. ET: Zimmerman's attorney is also arguing the prosecution should have to turn over names and addresses of certain witnesses.

2:15 p.m. ET: Nelson says she will handle the defense's motion expressing frustration with the discovery and the FBI file at a later date. One of Zimmerman's attorneys is now arguing that the prosecution has not turned over multiple photos to the defense.

2:15 p.m. ET: Nelson moves on to another motion. O'Mara says he is frustrated with how prosecutors have turned over evidence to the defense. He also says that prosecutors have not turned over FBI investigative records in this case.

2:11 p.m. ET: Rionda says the medical records should be treated the same as the school records. Nelson says she will review both the school records and medical records and decide what should be produced to the respective attorneys.

2:08 p.m. ET: Nelson says medical records are privileged information like school records. Nelson grants the prosecution access to Zimmerman medical records and will review them in chambers to determine what will be produced to the prosecution.

2:06 p.m. ET: Rionda says the prosecutors should have access to Zimmerman's medical records. O'Mara says that he is fine with a limited release of medical records 30 days before Martin's death and 30 days after. Rionda wants all of Zimmerman's medical records.

2:04 p.m. ET: O'Mara also says he wants Martin's girlfriend's twitter records, because her Tweets seem to contradict comments she has made about her behavior shortly after Martin died.

2:03 p.m. ET: The defense argued that information on the accounts, such as videos of MMA fighting, could be relevant to the defense case.

1:59 p.m. ET: Nelson says the court will issue subpoenas for Martin's Facebook and Twitter records.

1:57 p.m. ET: Prosecutor Rionda says we aren't here right now to litigate the case. He also says the defense can have his Twitter records, but the prosecution may argue later that they are not relevant.

1:55 p.m. ET: O'Mara says if the case focuses on whether the victim was the aggressor, then unfortunately then everything Martin has done will be relevant.

1:53 p.m. ET: O'Mara says there's no expectation of privacy in regards to public posts on Twitter and Facebook. Therefore, the defense should be entitled to Martin's public posts.

1:51 p.m. ET: This is Zimmerman's first appearance in front of Judge Nelson.

1:49 p.m. ET: O'Mara says there's no case or laws on the books in regards to discovery of social media evidence, because it is so new.

1:48 p.m. ET: Nelson is reviewing a document right now.

1:46 p.m. ET: Zimmerman is sitting emotionless in court. He appears to have gained weight since his last appearance in court.

1:45 p.m. ET: O'Mara says he wants to get his hands on Martin's school records. Judge Nelson cites a law and says she believes that O'Mara is entitled to the school records. The court moves on to Martin's social media records

1:40 p.m. ET: Judge Nelson says this is open case and open court, and she has no intention to close public off from information coming from the court. Nelson also says that if one side asks for something to be kept from the public she will rule on that item in her chambers.

1:37 p.m. ET: Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara says that he did file a proper motion requesting Martin's records after the prosecutors complained.

1:36 p.m. ET: Rionda says instead of filing a motion requesting subpoenas for Martin's school records the defense put the fact the subpeonas they created on their website for the public to know everything that is going on. The prosecutor also says that it will be difficult to put on a fair trial if the defense releases everything to the media. "We shouldn't have to have a press conference everytime there is a request for a document," said Rionda.

1:32 p.m. ET: Prosecutor Bernie De La Rionda is arguing that the defense subpeonas asking for school records were inproper without approval of the court.

1:29 p.m. ET: An attorney representing media outlets is arguing that motions and evidence in Zimmerman's case should remain public record.

1:28 p.m. ET: Judge Debra Nelson and Zimmerman have entered the courtroom.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:45 pm 
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The emergency motion concerns cops agreeing no charges should have been filed.

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O'Mara's motion: SPD sgt testified SAO, cops surprised lead detective recommended charge against #Zimmerman. They thot not enuf evidence.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:09 pm 
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Looks like the hearing uploaded in parts by "stateoftheinternet"
That Jerk and his friend doing a running stupid commentary was too much to bear :11

Here are PROPER recordings
(Thanks to "Preston" at CTH for posting these links)


George Zimmerman Hearing 10-19-12 (Part1)




George Zimmerman Hearing 10-19-12 (Part2)




George Zimmerman Hearing 10-19-12 (Part3)


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:13 pm 
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George Zimmerman Hearing-Pt. 10 - Mark O'mara Press Conference


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Another Upload of the hearing......

George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin - Full Hearing October 19, 2012 - Commentary by Michael Mortimer



Published on Oct 22, 2012 by Michael Mortimer

This is the ENTIRE Oct. 19, 2012, hearing on the Zimmerman / Trayvon Martin case. The significance of this hearing cannot be understated.

I will be providing commentary in the video when I have time later today. For now I will simply mention:

- What a difference a Judge makes! Judge Debra Nelson exhibited a) wisdom; b) fairness; c) competency; d) ethics; e) street smarts; f) intelligence; g) a firm hand - toward both sides; h) demands precision from the lawyers; i) expects lawyers appearing in her court to be prepared; j) requires professionalism; and i) proved that she is a hard worker.

All in all I am confident that THIS Judge will do the right thing on this case. She won't cave to pressure, she won't let politics, bias, nor prejudice effect her decisions.

Make sure to return, I'll be posting my commentary as annotations IN THE VIDEO, so you can get the play by play and understand the significance of everything that happened in the proceeding.

It is also one of the most significant court proceedings to date because, IMO, it appears to show the beginning of the end of attorney Benjamin Crump's case. (See video annotations on why I say this. Mainly, IMO the Judge have signals that she is wise to Crump's false narrative that he has been peddling since early March 2012.)

Moreover, the Judge declared Crump a witness and allowed for his deposition.

The Judge also said that Crump will produce at the deposition the phone he used to record supposed witness DeeDee's statement, a recorded statement Crump gave to the FBI to bolster and substantiate his racist accusations against George Zimmerman.

(Also IMO with his statements in Court, Crump provided us with the motive for fabricating (?) of DeeDee's testimony, that is, other than to make money off the back of the deceased Trayvon Martin.

I submit that he needed to do something to motivate the FBI to get involved and investigate George Zimmerman. So he fabricated DeeDee's account of her supposed conversation with Trayvon Martin, that is, the call at the time Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman confronted. This is just my opinion, please post your thoughts on that.

Also note Crump said in court that the "chain of custody" of the recording he made of DeeDee's statement was: 1) He recorded her statement; 2) He sent it to the FBI; 3) The FBI then sent it to the Florida Dept. of Law Enforcement; 4) Who then sent it to Angela Corey-Nifong; and 5) Who has yet to give the tape to George Zimmerman.

Note: IMO this is probably the most accurate account of what happened in regards to the "fabrication" and submission of the DeeDee tape. Why?

1) Crump was surprised at being called to "testify" at the Friday hearing;

2) He did not have time to prepare answers to the court's or lawyers' questions;

3) Attorney Don West and Mark O'Mara expertly used the opportunity to "depose" Crump on the spot, even though the Judge said they were not going to have a depo there in open court;

4) Even if not under oath, Crump as an "officer of the court" cannot lie to the Judge, so he was stuck up there at the podium;

5) Crump acted nervous and spoke in an evasive manner, the behavior of a liar;

6) Most of the time he didn't make sense.

Note: IMO Crump's demeanor indicated he knows his goosed is cooked. And when MOM attempted to suppress a smile as Crump was walking up to the podium, I got the sense MOM wanted to blurt out "DEAD MAN WAKING!"

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:11 pm 
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Locking Topic.... Discussion continues in Discussion thread #2

http://randomtopics.org/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=584&p=16328#p16328

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