Rumpole wrote:
Plastifab1 wrote:
In the document thread here, at page 20, Serino discusses the photo pin.... I couldn't find any where that someone removed it and put it in his pocket - I do remember something about the pin being in Trayvon's pocket. Old mind..can't remember it all.
http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/3 ... ts-ocr.pdfThanks.
Serino Sgt. Ciesla does describe pin on sweat shirt, but....
In the same 184 page discovery, the pin is described as being from TM's pockets
With just a skim through the 184 pages now I found .... evidence log entries on Pages 07, 22, 31, 45, 51, 58, 66, 75, and 82
Quote:
DMS•10 PERSONAL EFFECTS
One (1) red "711/1 brand name lighter, photo button, bag of skittles, and headphones.
Located and collected from with in the victim's pockets.
There are some frustrating discrepancies in evidence details.
People will chose to believe what best fits their theory. I assume this matter will be resolved with questioning at depositions.
(If it is considered important by either side)
I too have been mildly worried about discrepancies in regard to evidence described as from TM's pockets in logs, yet noted as outside TM's pockets by some at the crime scene. I worry because it would be a BIG distraction to have Court time wasted over bickering about what should be simple facts.
I think things have been resolved for me.... by Sundance at CTH:
sundance says: Quote:
January 19, 2013 at 3:23 am
The discrepancies between the “in pocket” evidence vs. “out of pocket” evidence is easily reconciled. I have actually spoken to these people, not just read their reports. the pocket contents were removed when looking for ID. They were replaced. Various PD folks saw the actual body during this process, that’s why some saw them on the ground, others did not.
The only things OUTSIDE of the pockets in the crime scene were the items marked and photographed with the exception of the Watermelon Juice can. That was photographed on top of the victim (tarp covering him) because it could not be placed easily back into his pockets. That’s why there are pictures of that item *on* the tarp at the scene.
If it was not marked, photographed, and location identified, it was in his pockets. Period.
That’s why it is not in dispute.
Also at CTH "nomatter_nevermind" corrected a mistake that both I and Plastifab1 made in the above quoted post.
nomatter_nevermind says: Quote:
January 19, 2013 at 3:21 am
That’s actually Sgt. Ciesla’s report. See p. 19 of the pdf, which is the first page of the report.
Serino’s name is at the top of p. 20 because he is the lead investigator.
Almost everyone, it seems, makes that mistake the first time through. I know I did.
So.... I am some what relieved to have those matters clarified to my satisfaction.
Lighter, photo button, bag of skittles, and headphones were all......
Located and collected from with in the victim's pockets.