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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:53 pm 
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The judge created the authentication issues by not allowing the defense time to track down witnesses. Not she's using the issue she created to not allow important evidence. More reversible error, imo.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:55 pm 
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9:51 p.m.
Guy finishes.

West offers further argument.

West says the content of the messages are what they are and should be presented to the jury.

He says the case is mired by the presentation of evidence, mentioning the report received on June 4.

West says there was an ongoing discovery issues, but it’s not true that they were given everything.

He calls Guy’s authentication issue illusory.

West says they were misled when they were given a report and the bin file. He says the report was misleading.

He says the state knew about the missing photos.

Judge Nelson says she does have an authentication issue.

She cites cases about electronic messages.

9:46 p.m.
West says not admitting the evidence would violate a part of the state’s constitution and the defendant’s right to confront.

West says the evidence is a step in the process of allowing Zimmerman to present a defense.

Judge Nelson asks for the response.

Guy says West made his point that the messages are speculation and there is no knowledge about the type of fight being talked about or even a code for something else.

Guy says we don’t know if Martin was fighting Andre the Giant or a little girl.

He says its unknown who typed the messages.

West asks about the lawyers exchanging cross examination and argument.

Guy says Connor was Mantei’s witness, but it was his argument and that’s why they did it.

Guy says the danger is exactly what West put before the court of a fight with a referee and none of it is specified in the messages.

Guy says there’s no knowledge of when the photo of Martin was taken and the best ones are the ones already in evidence.

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realitycheck wrote:
The state is in a panic ... the lies end NOW

Apparently not as long as Nelson is the gatekeeper.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:57 pm 
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The witch rushed the trial so the defense would not have time to get all this information ... if she disallows the MOST important evidence in this trial, she should be sent to prison for continuing the FRAUD.

It wasn't Trayvon, its not his text, thats not him in the pictures. Just because its his phone it doesn't make sense its his

I wish there was a cause of action against her personally but she has absolute immunity.

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My gosh, what a battle....West is valiant - Nelson is a different word.

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West was getting close to decking her. Deservedly so.

Wow. Un-freaking-believable. Even from this judge.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:00 pm 
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Puzzler wrote:
My gosh, what a battle....West is valiant - Nelson is a different word.

Is the word you're looking for "embarrassment" because I certainly think she is to the entire legal system; not just Florida's.

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I wish I could read the last paragraph she read in the case law she cited.


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liesel wrote:
I wish there was a cause of action against her personally but she has absolute immunity.

Unbelievable!


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She says what was presented to the court has nothing identifying Martin.

“Anybody could have picked up that phone and sent these text messages,” Judge Nelson says.

She says there are no identifying marks and it is a concern.

West says some messages required two passwords. Judge Nelson says another person could know the password.

West says there’s no indication anyone else used the phone.

West says he doesn’t know what else they could do when the state didn’t give them the messages in a timely manner.

West says they asked for time and he doesn’t know what else they could do.

He says it’s “simply unfair” and claims the state played games and lied.

Judge Nelson lets the state respond.

Guy says he would allow West to apologize for accusing him of standing by silently about information he didn’t have.

Judge Nelson says court is in recess until 8 a.m. to take up the issue of Donnelly’s issues.

O’Mara says he was not able to prepare his witnesses for the next day.

West says he’s not physically able to keep up the case as Judge Nelson walks out.

Court is in recess until 8 a.m. 9:00AM

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Disgusting judicial conduct in this case.


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Hi Packy.

Yes..... but she is just the ringmaster of the Circus running at the moment.

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George Zimmerman Trial Day 22: Live Updates

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packy wrote:
Disgusting judicial conduct in this case.

Good morning, packy! Glad you're with us today. :)

Yes, we were just discussing Nelson's reprehensible behavior in the GZ general discussion thread.

I'm also glad I'm not the only one who didn't trust Nelson and showed up to the trial thread early! :)

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I'm excited to see if West is confrontational to Nelson from the start today. Unfortunately he is an experienced professional and my desire for a 'thug' approach will leave me a little disappointed, I'm sure!


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Clearly Nelson is hell bent on her schedule.

I am at a bit of a loss as to WHY the defence is actually accommodating by rushing through witnesses and striving to end today?

I would have thought they could control the pace at least in respect to how many witnesses to call... no need to end today?

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Hi Packy.

Yes..... but she is just the ringmaster of the Circus running at the moment.

She was hungry because she didn't let the lawyers have a dinner break; tired from being there all day and likely working through her own lunch hour at her desk; and angry because the hearings took a lot longer than she expected. She figures if she can keep up the pace (not that she has been doing depos and other work on this case most nights and weekends), being the delicate flower she is (/sarc), then so can everyone else.

I suspect her anger is mostly at herself and focused on the defense because they were right. She should have delayed the trial. She was more concerned about how it would look to let the defense push her around that way, in front of the whole world, or like Serino, was getting pressured. She's not stupid. She knows her waive of the hand to the defense has cost the jurors days of their time wasted with pre-trial matters. It has also cost the state thousands of dollars in food and lodging for the jurors.

Whatever the actual trial cost the state is on her, if this is reversed or ends in a mistrial for whatever reason. I'd say in these tough economic times she's pretty aware of that.

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