Puzzler, from the text messages it appears that GZ agreed to amend whatever plan there was to pick up their things. Just before noon, GZ asked SZ to let him know when she was done moving, having been informed she had not yet entered the house yet. That was their most recent agreement. The texts do not show GZ refusing SZ's requests. In fact, the texts show both of them being polite, and trying to work together, if one just reads the plain text without trying to put more into/behind them.

Two hours, 14 minutes later SZ called LE. I don't know what time he arrived or how long the altercation lasted before she called.

It was only roughly two hours after agreeing to let SZ be there on Monday, and asking her to text him when she's done, so that's her understanding of the plan and the info she's operating under, that he shows up with a woman in his truck. He knows she'll be upset, because he did the same thing a week or so before. IIRC, that woman is what pushed SZ to file for divorce.

Don't get me wrong - GZ was very polite and accommodating from my reading of the text messages. Many have suggested SZ should have gotten her things on Saturday as previously agreed and been done with it. But there is nothing that I've seen to suggest there was any urgency about it from GZ. She had no reason to be in a rush; his texts seemed like the considerate, nice GZ we've all come to respect and admire. There was also mention of SZ being ill on Sunday.

I suspect SZ wasn't in total control of the timing of things, relying on help and a truck from her dad. Who knows where they got the trailer - maybe it belonged to a friend/relative, or maybe she rented it.

Perhaps if she had been alerted to some urgency, rather than being left with the understanding they were in agreement on extending her time, she'd have rented a big truck and moved everything by herself, or hired someone to help. There's nothing I've seen to indicate SZ was aware that GZ would be there before she texted that she was done/gone, or that he was in any hurry.

You also mentioned that SZ is the one who moved out. My understanding is that GZ left first, 3-4 days after he was acquitted. They had the house rent-free from her parents. Over that month or so after he left, virtually without a word, he texted his wife of over six years who had stood by him through everything, exactly twice to let her know he was fine. He didn't say he was coming back someday, or never, leaving her in limbo.

Maybe she deserved that cruelty, and even the infidelity. We don't know, and hopefully never will. I hope we don't hear any more about this divorce other than it's final and that both have moved on and are doing well. Mostly I want to hear that they are both happy.

As for Connor, according to SZ's lawyer, he has turned down numerous requests for an interview but allowed that one. I suspect money was a likely motivator, but I suspect there were also some emotions strongly involved in the decision.

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I understand how Unitron feels. It has happened to me also and I am uncomfortable about it.

Well said. At the least, I'd feel used. I'd feel stupid, worthless, humiliated, and a zillion other negative things. My adorable, wonderful, much loved husband would find the media the least of his worries. I don't have much of a temper. It takes a lot to bother me. That would do it BIGTIME. I'd probably scare myself. Our kids would probably lock me up in a psych ward indefinitely and it would probably be the right thing to do.

Of course, she likely has a role in this; it's possible she drove him out or demanded he leave. He probably feels that way, whether we'd agree with his interpretation or not.


If what we're seeing/hearing is true, he has certainly acted like a jerk and I also strongly agree that he should lay low. And I just don't have the words to explain how I feel about anyone who would take up with someone who is married, or who is a cheater.

Not just to be argumentative (though it must seem that way because I keep arguing both sides!), but GZ has been through an unimaginable 16+ months, from being attacked and beaten and fearing for his life, to being forced to take a life, and all that followed. Any of those things would deeply affect someone. All of them together... I just can't imagine.

I posted that I liken it to ptsd, or a soldier returning from war having changed dramatically. He's had his life taken away from him (what parts he didn't throw away), he can't even go out in public, he gets death threats, etc. etc. Some of the people who know and love(d) him are very concerned, including the honorable vet and his wife. Did you read their comments in the Daily Mail article? Here is my post with link and highlights. What have they experienced to cause them to say that GZ had "burned all of his bridges"? They also described him as abnormal, reckless, etc. MOM has expressed concern. GZ needs help to get through this. Like those who were close to him, I am very, very concerned about the damage he is doing to himself now.

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Pssst... unitron is not going to happy about you capitalizing his name... Should I edit it for you? (joking)

So far the list is unitron and Justfactsplz that would prefer their comments stay here. If I missed anyone, please let me know. TIA

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I forgot how to post videos



Edit to embed video ~ liesel

Shellie sent pictures from her Iphone to Christi O'Connor. the pictures were of her father's nose, screen shots of her text messages to George, picture of the broken Ipad. Christi O'Connor was on HLN on the phone saying Shellie sent them to her as HLN was showing them.

The police are finally getting smart and realizing that they are wasting too much time and money on the stupid iPad. They wouldn't have even taken it if the media wasn't hounding them for information.

Shellie claims she felt threatened yet in the security video you can see her, her father and helper all followed George down the driveway as he was walking back to his truck after he broke the Ipad. That's not how someone reacts when they truly believe someone is going to shoot them.

Police report says when they arrived George was standing outside of his truck. No one ever saw a gun.

It's in the police report

The Daily Mail is a sensational "Tabloid" type paper/site I agree.... but in their defense.......

They do get the sensational stuff out there promptly... especially good at posting photos/videos.

It was a great reference site for the Boston Bombings for instance.

In this instance.... it is a good place to go to get latest photos and videos associated with events.

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Shellie's lawyer said Shellie has lost about 30lbs. She looks good.

George should go ahead and hire a divorce attorney. MoM is a criminal defense attorney and not a civil attorney.

Areas of Practice

Criminal Law
DUI/DWI
White Collar Crimes
Family Law
Child Support
Custody & Visitation
Divorce
Internet - Cyberspace
Alternative Dispute Resolution

http://www.markomaralaw.com/Attorney-Pr ... mara.shtml

edit: just thought that would be helpful as well

Interesting, but I had heard MoM was cutting ties with GZ. That's a whole lot of areas to specialize in. IMO

Thanks Dman... so MOM could be George's divorce lawyer... but will he take it on and does GZ want him?

Seems not from published statements... but who knows?

I am sure MOM would be more than a Match for Sims

And... as others have said... this should be a relatively simple divorce settlement. No need for press conferences and drama.

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Shellie and George have split the blanket, the pots and pans and in the midst of a divorce. I can't imagine anyone messing around with George but not cause he is married. George doesn't live with Shellie anymore.
All the drama including Shellie's lawyers 39 minute is a good laugh.

Thanks, Froggielegs. I saw the statement without the "too" tacked on and then later, from a separate witness, with the "too" added. Is there a reason one is more believable than the other? Every media report I've seen has quoted only the first version, without the "too".

I also noticed that GZ told LE that he went to the residence expecting SZ to be there because he wanted to make sure she didn't take anything that wasn't agreed upon. So, I guess that puts a pin in all of the balloons about SZ instigating a meeting, ranging from setting him up to trying to reconcile.

Froggielegs, can you point me to where in the incident report it's stated that GZ was outside of the truck? The names are blacked out, so there's no way to be certain, I suppose, but page 8 of 14 states there was a male outside of the truck that was ordered to step away, keeping his hands up, and then states, "Ofc. Hernandez and Ofc Franks then gave the subject in the vehicle loud verbal commands to step out of the vehicle with his hands up, and directed him backwards towards our patrol cars, where he was secured in handcuffs by a Seminole County deputy." Page 7 of 14 makes similar statements and adds that the man outside of the truck was wearing a black t-shirt, the one inside the truck was wearing a plaid shirt. Are you saying that wasn't GZ?

Page 13 of 14 asserts MOM had discussions with GZ on scene, and presumably prior to his mini-presser. It further shows the surveillance video of the incident was placed on four drives in 45 minute segments, so GZ was there longer than I originally guessed. The video surveillance is described as showing GZ taking the ipad and breaking it, but doesn't mention any hitting with it. There is also no mention that the video disproved the allegation.

Page 11 of 14 says there were no witnesses to SZ hitting GZ with the ipad.

So... If it turns out that the ipad hitting didn't happen, but that GZ made a mistake, mistook some other action for that in the heat of the moment, given that SZ is on probation and will go to jail for a year if she violates that probation, what will everyone think of that?

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My understanding is that MOM will continue to represent GZ in the sanctions hearing and anything else that comes from the prior criminal charges of which GZ was acquitted. He'll also continue to represent him against NBC. What MOM has said he won't do is to represent GZ against SZ, whether in the dissolution or the dv.

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Ack! Closing tabs and found this, unposted. Sorry, wasn't ignoring you, LittleLaughter. I wouldn't dare!



BBM - Amen. So very true. Even those who know better can't seem to help themselves though. I've known lawyers who specialize in dissolutions be just as nutty as their nuttiest client. In fact, a lot of divorce lawyers won't take a case against another lawyer because it won't end. I mean ten years and counting, one case I know of where the client divorced their lawyer spouse.
And it's the lawyer-party keeping it going, going through several attorneys over the years and pro se when no one will touch the toxic case.

I'm a big 2nd amendment person myself. And I abhor the media's attempts to infringe on it. But I don't know that SZ agrees with me. GZ seems to, given that he carries, but he also campaigned for President Obama, so who knows?


No need for that "respectfully disagree" stuff with me. I appreciate an intelligent, thoughtful challenge to my posts. It makes me think, and weigh things to have a better understanding of them.

If SZ was as upset, frightened, and distraught as it seemed, or as was claimed, she may not have thought of the implications of calling LE. I'm not sure anyone thinks beyond "Make it stop" in that kind of moment. And it's not her doing that anything related to either of them is national news - that's the scheme team's doing, along with the rest of the Trayborg™.

She shouldn't have gone to the media. But from what I saw, she didn't trash him. So it wasn't all vindictive. And I just can't manage to isolate any action by either and look at it in a vacuum. In her mind, I'm sure, she has been used cruelly by GZ, then tossed away like yesterday's trash as soon as he was acquitted, without even telling her she was garbage to him. She was cheated on, ignored, etc. etc. I'm not saying that's what happened, I'm saying that's how she feels.

What she did is pretty tame compared to how I may react if ever in a similar circumstance. Maturity and decorum will go right out the window if my darling, near-perfect hubby abandons me with two texts over a month saying, "I'm fine", and he's out with my replacement, or not even replacement, thing of the day. And in our case, it wouldn't be national news! Well, until after he pulled that nonsense, then maybe... (joking)

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It is my understanding that MOM and George parted ways before this divorce issue came up. Omara is handling only the things like sanctions and the NBC lawsuit. I was really surprised to see Omara report to the scene of the DV.

With regard to MOM not representing George in the divorce- It's simply a conflict of interests. No different than when you buy a house- You & the seller sit at the closing table with the atty. He informs both parties that if their is ever a dispute afterwards, he cannot represent either one. Conflict of interest. Same goes if you are sideswiped and charged for reckless driving. You hire a defense atty whose firm also has civil atty's. None of the civil atty's can represent the victim, because the firm is already representing one side. Conflict of interest. MOM represented George in his defense. During that time, he spoke with Shellie numerous times about the evidence, witnesses, personal things, etc. He cannot represent either one in a battle between the two. Conflict of interest.