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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:39 pm 
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Yesterday.... O'mara filed a motion requiring the State to produce the evidence that they intend citing in support of the Gag order.
10/24/12 | Defendant's Supplemental Witness List
http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Rel ... 20List.pdf

The deadline was 5:00PM yesterday. Nothing shows as having been filed by the State in response.
(Court and Clerks office web sites can lag.. so it is possible something was filed?)

The defence are joined in opposing the Gag Motion by Media representatives
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... -bar-rules

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George Zimmerman defense, national media prepare to fight gag order request
12:10 p.m. EST, October 23, 2012|
By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel

George Zimmerman's defense team today asked supporters to point out the most objectionable things they've said and written so they can prepare for a gag order hearing Friday in Sanford.

Meanwhile, a collection of local and national media organizations — including The Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, USA Today and other outlets — filed paperwork stating there is "no basis" for the state's gag order request.

The news outlets, in a filing dated Tuesday, argue that prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda is "asking the Court to violate the media's First Amendment right to gather news and information" by silencing Zimmerman's defense.

"Incredibly, the State seeks this drastic relief without citing or coming forward with any evidence relating to — much less satisfying — the demanding standard governing the issuance of 'gag orders,'" write the media outlets' attorneys.


...more at link
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... -bar-rules


Media Motions to Intervene:
1-/25/12 | Motion to Intervene and Opposition to State's 2nd Motion for Gag Order (Orlando Sentinel)
http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Rel ... 0Order.pdf

10/25/12 | Cable News Network Motion to Intervene and Joiner (CNN)
http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Rel ... 0Order.pdf

10/25/12 | Media Companies' Motion to Intervene (Miami Herald, Bradenton Herald... and many more)
http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Rel ... 5%2012.pdf

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Zimmerman Gag Order: The Defense Is Not the Problem
By Jeralyn, Section Crime in the News
Posted on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 08:30:00 AM EST

The State's Attorney's Office has filed this Memorandum in support of its second motion for a gag order on attorneys in the George Zimmerman case. The pleading is not on the court's website yet, but Jeff Wiener of the Orlando Sentinel has posted it. He describes it here. The hearing on the motion is today at 1:30 p.m. Fox 35 Orlando will be live-streaming it.

It's not the defense that needs gagging. While I don't think Judge Nelson will issue a gag order, as opposed to just reminding all the lawyers they are subject to disciplinary rules for improper prejudicial extra-judicial comments, it's important to note that that the State asks in its Memorandum, as it did in its Second Motion for Gag Order (and its first motion in April) that the court restrict not just prosecutors, O'Mara and defense lawyers, but all lawyers "involved" with the prosecution or defense
....snip....

As I wrote here, the Martin family lawyers are clearly involved with the prosecution. They gathered evidence for the investigation of Zimmerman -- such as Witness 8's statements about her telephone calls with Trayvon Martin the night he was shot. The state relied on Witness 8's statements for probable cause in its affidavit to charge Zimmerman with second degree murder. Crump's interview of Witness 8 was released in discovery along with the state's later interview of her. The state was unaware of Witness 8 until Crump announced her existence at a press conference on March 20 and played a recording of his interview with her, which he described to some reporters as an affidavit. The state has listed Witness 8 as a trial witness. Their clients, Trayvon Martin's parents, are listed as trial witnesses. Angela Corey, in her press conference announcing charges, thanked the Martins' lawyers for their "daily assistance" communicating updates from their office to the Martins.
...snip....

The state should be complying with its obligation to exercise reasonable care in preventing those associated with the prosecution to refrain from making prejudicial comments prosecutors are not allowed to make by moving for an order restricting the comments of the Martin family lawyers. While the state's motion, if granted today, could well include them, the state has not once referred to their inflammatory, prejudicial and in many instances, highly disputed and dubious comments and Judge Nelson said she hasn't watched or read the news coverage of the case. So on her own, she would have no idea.

There is no need for a gag order on the defense. If one is issued, it should include all lawyers associated with the case. And the state should be taken to task for not alerting the court to the need for the Martin family lawyers' comments to be restricted.

Nor should the order, if granted, prevent Mark O'Mara from continuing to post publicly available pleadings on his website and inform the public as to the course of court proceedings. As the media points out and the commentary to Florida's Rule 4-3.6

...more at link
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/10/26/4129/6377

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George Zimmerman judge: I'll decide Monday on gag order
By Rene Stutzman and Jeff Weiner, Orlando Sentinel
7:52 p.m. EDT, October 26, 2012

SANFORD – Defense attorney Mark O'Mara on Friday told a judge that George Zimmerman was arrested on a murder charge only after a pair of media-savvy lawyers "traveled the countryside" on a campaign that had a single message: "Mr. Zimmerman is a racist murderer."

He was trying to convince Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson not to impose a gag order, something Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda urged her to do.

She will announce her decision on Monday, she said.

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“Something Afoot”….
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... ing-afoot/

Mark O'Mara - And So It Is Told

Diwataman has uploaded a critical part of O'Mara's presentation at yesterdays hearing and added some illustrations of some points... in particular references to previous postings at CTH and Dman's blog.



Published on Oct 27, 2012 by DiwataMan2

In a nearly impossible feat, O'Mara describes the events after Feb 26th that have surrounded the George Zimmerman case and how he is justified in responding to the condition he and, more importantly, his client find themselves in.

Oct. 26 2012 Hearing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jpm-ObSRaE

http://diwataman.wordpress.com/

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... t-26th-t...

http://www.talkleft.com/
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/10/26/4129/6377

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:13 pm 
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Also quoting ME from CTH

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... ent-229109

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October 27, 2012 at 4:50 pm

I agree.
It is was very important to outline the conspiracy … the deliberate scheme to create a false narrative via Crump/Julison, and further, the Political interference via Bondi, Cory et al.
It seems to me that Sundance cottoned on to this first, or at least earlier than most… it could have been dismissed as the ravings of “a racist conservative blog site”, but it has gained traction and frankly there is undeniable evidence out there if people care to look (or are forced to look). I think it is a HUGE step that these matters were aired in open court. That is a biggie! They are no longer just part of a “conspiracy theory” on a blog site.
The light has at least been turned on. The roaches have been exposed. They will scurry and hide as roaches do… but we can pursue them… we have roach spray, and hopefully the hammer of the law will squash a few.
This can of worms is now main-stream :D


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Had to go over and try to read the whole thread.

Is it true that the judge said "we" as stated in one post. That's a no no. I haven't been keeping up with all of these articles so I missed it.


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Not sure exactly which bit you are referring to, Packy?

So far this judge is "OK" but as I have pointed out she is behaving a bit dim at times. Not getting what the defence are saying (especially West). There is no doubt at all that the prosecution have hidden evidence right from the start... even in the PCA that failed to include details of GZ's known (and photographed) injuries. Nelson's remedy of Defence being allowed to search FDLE files themselves is no remedy at all. It is the States job to do that. They have the resources to do that. They are supposed to have done that already and passed EVERYTHING they find on to the defence... it's called DISCOVERY.
And the phones!!!!!!
Something (a lot) is very wrong there. Nobody tested the one found at the scene? Nobody has ping logs to confirm the critical alleged DeeDee call? That is about the only evidence the State have and they have NOT confirmed it?
And the games with Crump? A whole can of worms in itself.

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Today is the DEADLINE for Crump to supply a list of names of people who were in the room at his end of the alleged phone call with Dee Dee. Crump was given 10 days to produce name at the 10-19-12 hearing.
Note also that at that hearing Judge Nelson ruled that the defence could depose Crump.... a very important development.
Crump needs to be questioned under oath about a lot of his public outbursts.

Also due today is Judge Nelson's ruling on the Gag Order Motion from last Friday's hearing.

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Gag order ruling expected today in George Zimmerman murder case
Judge releases fewer Zimmerman medical records than Trayvon's family had hoped.

By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
3:28 p.m. EDT, October 29, 2012

SANFORD – Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson is expected to announce her ruling on a state request for a gag order in the George Zimmerman second-degree murder case today.

In the meantime, her ruling on another issue was released today: She gave prosecutors fewer medical records than attorneys for Trayvon Martin's family had hoped.

They had asked for all his medical records. Defense attorneys had squawked, saying that would violate Zimmerman's right to privacy. So the judge looked them over and handed to the state only those that she said were related to injuries Zimmerman suffered the night he shot the unarmed 17-year-old.

"Any injuries received that night would clearly be relevant to a self-defense claim, as would any similar injuries present before that night or continuing symptoms after that night," she wrote. "Observations of the defendant's physical appearance surrounding the date of the shooting may also be relevant. However, other medical records relating to the treatment of untreated maladies should not be disclosed."

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JUDGE NELSON DENIES GAG ORDER

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Good day if you are Questing for Justice.
(As opposed to Justice Questing)

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Rumpole wrote:
Good day if you are Questing for Justice.
(As opposed to Justice Questing)

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Indeed, today is a good day! I wonder if there is a reason why Crump and cohorts missed this last hearing?

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Hi seeing eye :24

It was noticeable that Crump wasn't there... but he KNOWS he has been the most vocal as far as "tainting" potential jurors goes.

5:00PM has past and no word of Crump filing list of names as ordered.

It is possible that Clerk and Court sites are not updated yet... but nothing shows

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Judge Debra: NO GAG FOR YOU !
Posted on October 29, 2012 by sundancecracker

Benjamin Crump responds: “ebidents will justimafi our ibventions“… or something

Rene’s Turn – SANFORD: Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson on Monday refused to issue a gag order in the George Zimmerman second-degree murder case.

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In a two-page order, the judge wrote that she found no “overriding pattern of prejudicial commentary” and noted that a dozen media companies that had opposed the order, including the Orlando Sentinel, were right when they argued that the state had failed to demonstrate prejudice.

The judge also noted that she had several tools to make sure Zimmerman’s jury is impartial. She can move the trial to another county, have attorneys question potential jurors one at a time and away from other potential panel members and, once seated, she can give stern instructions about avoiding outside sources of information.

Her order included no criticism of O’Mara and no hint that she believes he should do things differently.

In the meantime, Nelson’s ruling on another issue was released Monday: She gave prosecutors fewer of the defendant’s medical records than attorneys for Trayvon Martin‘s family had hoped.

They had asked for all his medical records. Defense attorneys had squawked, saying that would violate Zimmerman’s right to privacy. So the judge looked them over and handed to the state only those that she said were relevant: those related to injuries Zimmerman suffered the night he shot the unarmed 17-year-old.

“Any injuries received that night would clearly be relevant to a self-defense claim, as would any similar injuries present before that night or continuing symptoms after that night,” she wrote. “Observations of the defendant’s physical appearance surrounding the date of the shooting may also be relevant. However, other medical records relating to the treatment of untreated maladies should not be disclosed.”

During a news conference on the courthouse lawn Oct. 19, about two hours before attorneys presented their case to the judge, family attorney Benjamin Crump called for the release of Zimmerman’s prescription and mental health records.

That would be key, he said, to understanding the mind of Trayvon’s killer.

The judge’s ruling, though, kept those under wraps.

Several months ago O’Mara released a set of office notes from the Altamonte Springs doctor’s office where the defendant sought medical care the day after the shooting. They revealed that Zimmerman was taking several prescriptions, including those commonly given to people who suffer from anxiety and cannot sleep.

They also revealed that a physician’s assistant diagnosed him with a broken nose, cuts to the back of his head, two black eyes and back pain.

The judge signed the order on the medical records Friday. It became public Monday.

The gag order request was an attempt by Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda to muzzle O’Mara, who has been vocal in his defense of Zimmerman and innovative in communicating on the web, Twitter and, for a time, Facebook.

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Being fair and balanced... the view from the left.....

No Gag Order in George Zimmerman Case
By Jeralyn, Section Crime in the News
Posted on Tue Oct 30, 2012 at 07:34:13 PM EST

Judge Debra Nelson has rejected the state's second request for a gag order in the George Zimmerman case.

By now, Martin family lawyer Benjamin Crump should have disclosed to the defense everyone who was present on March 19 when he recorded a telephone interview with Witness 8, referred to as "Dee Dee." ABC News reporter Matt Gutman has previously said he was there, as were the parents of Trayvon Martin, whom he described as "ashen-faced" while listening to the call. At the hearing on Friday, October 19, the Judge told Crump to disclose the names to Zimmerman's defense team within 10 days.

In the video accompanying the ABC article, Diane Sawyer reports George Zimmerman said he was acting as a "neighborhood watchdog." I wonder who wrote that description? Not only was it wrong -- Zimmerman said he was on his way to go grocery shopping, not patrolling the neighborhood or acting on behalf of the neighborhood watch that evening.

Could her first sentence be any more prejudicial?
    The FBI has decided to take action in that case of the 17 year old gunned down by the man who said he was acting as a neighborhood watchdog.


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Jose Baez has filed a letter with the court....

10/30/12 | Notice of Filing
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Correcting BDLR Who said at last hearing that Baez had been "held in contempt" by Judge Perry during the Casey Anthony trial

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Wow, never thought I'd ever applaud Baez for anything, but he deserves applause for showing how reckless BDLR is in his research of facts. :91


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Yes... the irony is rich! (or something) :24

I still think he was devious and conniving (and dishonest) in his defence of KC... but in fairness.... the system let him get away with it. In the final analysis a lawyer has to push as far as he can to defend a client... even a despicable client.

I applaud Baez for putting the record straight.

From what little I have seen of BDLR he "flies by the seat of his pants"..... says things off the top of his head "from memory"

THAT is less than the standard expected in a Courtroom. With serious matters at hand he needs to speak factually and not just "off the cuff" It goes way beyond "misspeaking"... it is misleading the court (and perhaps a jury eventually). Bernie needs to clean up his act and/or be taken to task by the Judge.

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