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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:33 pm 
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http://www.gzlegalcase.com/ seems to have crashed (6:30 PM Pacific)

"Table './case_jmln1/jml_session' is marked as crashed and should be repaired SQL=INSERT INTO `jml_session` (`session_id`, `client_id`, `time`) VALUES ('2f5c9172bac265347878206164cb8a6f', 0, '1372987690')"

But http://www.gzdefensefund.com/donate/ is still online.

They haven't had time for an update for over a month now.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:41 pm 
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The comments I have seen are about the same as they ever were.

Most never ever actually attempted to incorporate facts into the narrative that they were gullible enough to let the Scheme Team IMRINT on them.

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The Alpha-Cretins.....pseudo analysts like Moreinane Dave, LIMPapa, papapinhead, DataVenia, Teeto... were all engaged in intellectual masturbation.... imagining voices and seeing images in blank videos.....twisting and spinning facts to fit into some ridiculous imagined scenario, rather than admit the obvious truth.

Occam would cut himself shaving if he used such a blunt razor :slap

They never did explain the FACT that George saw TM run (or skip) away before he got out of his truck. Trayvon should have been long gone from the T by the time George got there (Could have been home and back 4 times as West suggested). Since there was a meeting of George and TM... TM MUST have waited (or gone home, came back and waited).

To fit the Traybot notion that TM was continuing towards home and George followed until he caught up and confronted him requires that Trayvon be walking (or running) on a treadmill.... or "moonwalking" for several minutes to allow George to catch up. :slap

To get around that some Traybots suggest TM got closer to home and George caught up to him there... and they battled for minutes back up towards the T from Brandi's house. Of course THAT is totally contrary to what ANY witness heard or saw... and as pure supposition has no more validity than a theory involving Space aliens.
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They are NOT hearing "their stuff" mentioned in court because it was NEVER part of the facts of this case.. or in fact part of REALITY at all. It was the imaginings of delusional minds fed to gullible, wilfully ignorant morons like LiveLaughLove, Angie, Riverselah and all the other daft old dears at JQ.

Once IMPRINTED the mindless emotional crap takes over.

They STILL see a small child chased down by a much larger adult... all of their saccharin concerns for "Trayvon's family" is based on that (and a false notion that there ever was a "family" as portrayed by the Schemers)
The HATE they spew is for this "monster" that would chase after a small child and murder him in cold blood... only.... THAT IS NOT GEORGE..... it is a made up character in the minds of delusional stupid people.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:51 pm 
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The Zimmerman Files (Do you really wanna know?)


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:53 pm 
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What will they do when all Bernie can do is pull a weasel out of his arse? Will they go on the warpath and begin eating their own?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:50 am 
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I have said before... I have seen the dopes at JQ be proven wrong before. I liken them to a school of Reef Fish.. they will just dart off as a cloud to nibble on some other case (and get that wrong too). they will for ever claim they were right but somehow the system got it wrong (cue: racists, conspiracies, underhand tricks by defence, the Machiavellian influence of CTH, etc etc ) but mostly that will be comments in passing.

As far as the people of Sanford go? Riots and all? My gut feeling is that MOST people are coming around to seeing that it was a Scheme. I don't see large crowds of protesters etc. I think the BGI big-wigs know that people are on to them in this instance so they are not likely to try and stir up the mob?

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I think support for this fiasco is waning in Sanford. The last few gatherings for Trayvon has only brought forth a scant crowd. The people that use logic and facts to form an opinion will see through the scheme team. Those that don't will never be convinced of the truth because they will George to be guilty and won't let go of that notion.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:00 am 
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Rumpole wrote:
I have said before... I have seen the dopes at JQ be proven wrong before. I liken them to a school of Reef Fish.. they will just dart off as a cloud to nibble on some other case (and get that wrong too). they will for ever claim they were right but somehow the system got it wrong (cue: racists, conspiracies, underhand tricks by defence, the Machiavellian influence of CTH, etc etc ) but mostly that will be comments in passing.

As far as the people of Sanford go? Riots and all? My gut feeling is that MOST people are coming around to seeing that it was a Scheme. I don't see large crowds of protesters etc. I think the BGI big-wigs know that people are on to them in this instance so they are not likely to try and stir up the mob?

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That may be the way the folks at JusticeQuest react (they won't even let me in for a peek at the comments), but it may be different over in the lounge.

Leatherman's tried writing on "non-Trayvon" topics before, with results that were less than spectacular number-of-comments wise.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:10 am 
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I have company from out of town this week and missing a lot. But keeping up with the threads here and CTH and LI have really helped. Thanks for all the updates. And what is wrong with Nelson that she won't give more time. Ugh. I still believe that we won't ever know who did the first physical confrontation, and that should warrant reasonable doubt in itself but then we can't figure juries sometimes.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:17 am 
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Good morning! Trial starts at 8:30. See you in the trial thread!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:34 am 
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AndrewBranca wrote:
Zimmerman Trial Review– How We Got Here, And Where We’re Going

As the State prepares to rest its case against George Zimmerman as early as tomorrow, I can’t help but juxtapose where we ought to be in terms of the weight of evidence of Zimmerman’s guilt of second degree murder, and contrast it with where we are. The gap is of Grand Canyon proportions.

The Charge: Second Degree Murder

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R George Zimmerman, defendant, survivor

First, it is worth recalling that Florida’s second degree murder statute requires that Zimmerman have possessed a “depraved mind” when he killed Trayvon Martin. For more information on what is required for a “depraved mind,” and why the State is so unlikely to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, its existence, see:


To charge Zimmerman with second-degree murder, then, the State had to somehow acquire facts suggestive of this mental state. These facts would then provide the foundation for the affidavit of probable cause providing the legal basis for Zimmerman’s arrest and prosecution on murder 2.

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Read much more at Legal Insurrection.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:36 pm 
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From an attorney who practices before Nelson, sent while MOM was arguing JOA:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:46 pm 
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Press conference started.

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I'm glad O'Mara put GZ's mother and uncle on last today. Jury will think about that as much as Sybrina and her son.


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MOM:
There will be a lot of other witnesses to identify GZ as screamer on 911 call.
Respects court's [bogus] JOA ruling - "It is what it is."
Both mothers have to live their realities.

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MOM:
Expects to be done Wednesday or Thursday, depends on pending rulings.
3 or 4 depos still to be done.
Says Bao is a very literal person; it's his personality; "we'll have other experts dealing with those issues."
Haven't decided whether GZ will testify.
Never thought this was a proper case.
Rash-n-frash-n press questioning MOM for cross exam of Traymom™; says it's his job.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:57 pm 
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JOA standard high because all has to be seen in favor of the state.
MOM wasn't surprised by what state put on, more surprised about what they didn't, such as more mTM™ family, LE that had a lot of involvement with the case.
Denies pandering by expressing condolence (what a jerk reporter!)
Wants to keep case focused on 6-7 minutes that night.
GZ is still very worried and stressed.
State's use of GZ's past backfired and maybe open door for TM™'s history.

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State put on GZ's past, education, to show what he brought to table, could open door to what TM™ brought.
Would "almost welcome" "be quite ok with that" GZ's prior arrest but if state brings it, "gloves off".
THC was kept out because it had no relevance; now Bao says it's relevant and defense has other experts.
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Jean Casaras says the jury didn't look at Sybrina. She is sure that is out of respect? They looked down and everywhere she wasn't. They had to work up their nerve to look at her.


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I hope she's right - that sounds good for GZ to me. :)

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