Even if George had a broken nose -- and I don't think that too likely given what we currently know...

...and even if Trayvon did start the physical altercation by punching George after a verbal exchange between the two, it doesn't automatically mean George isn't guilty of Murder 2 or manslaughter, as Baghdad Bob, in his naivete and lack of legal knowledge seems to think.

One cannot look at only the physical altercation to determine guilt or innocence here. There are events that directly led to that altercation, and those events will make all the difference in this case.

"There are events that directly led to that altercation, and those events will make all the difference in this case."

OK DV, What are the provable, factual events that amount to Murder 2 which came before the uncontested attack by Mr. Martin on Georgie. Tell them to me WITHOUT using the words: "if", "what if", "maybe", "could have", "suppose", "how about" "let's see" and any other wiggle words.

As Sgt. Friday would say, "Just the facts.".

The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree and constitutes a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(1) a person of ordinary judgment would know is reasonably certain to kill or do serious bodily injury to another, and (2) is done from ill will, hatred, spite or an evil intent, and (3) is of such a nature that the act itself indicates an indifference to human life.

9. During that analysis, CelleBrite was able to access the flash memory of the phone and an enormous amount of additional information has been gathered from that phone. That information was forwarded to defense counsel on or about January 18, 2013. Initial analysis was done by undersigned over the weekend of January 19, 2013 and there was specific concerns with information that is missing from that analysis. As illustrative example, while the analysis includes GPS locating records for Mr. Martin's phone for all of the time that he was in the Sanford area, specifically absent is any such data for February 26, 2012, the date of the event.

10. Similarly, there seems to be missing entries regarding phone calls made to the phone or texts made to or from the phone in the evening hours of February 26, 2012. Expert analysis is required to further identify these issues.

918.13 Tampering with or fabricating physical evidence.--

(1) No person, knowing that a criminal trial or proceeding or an investigation by a duly constituted prosecuting authority, law enforcement agency, grand jury or legislative committee of this state is pending or is about to be instituted, shall:

(a) Alter, destroy, conceal, or remove any record, document, or thing with the purpose to impair its verity or availability in such proceeding or investigation; or

(b) Make, present, or use any record, document, or thing, knowing it to be false.

(2) Any person who violates any provision of this section shall be guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

Firstly... how did you get text version from document? Did you type it out yourself?

How can this farce continue?

Why not change the Motion heading to "Motion to Dismiss" and attach a few arrest warrants?

Serino attached a recent photograph of Trayvon Martin that he got from Tracy Martin. Pg 15 of 23 with Nettles link. Since is page two, I am again working on the assumption that page 1 is the cover letter and that is the fax to the ME's office. time stamp agrees with report for 2/28/12. I wonder what picture that was and why it hasn't been out there in discovery.



http://184.172.211.159/~gzdocs/document ... Martin.pdf

Was it Crump's or Julison's idea to use the much younger "Hollister" picture? My money is on Julison.

Deb, you should wish for the ping logs now!