Shorter: Even though we lied about our darling, angel Trayvon; none of that actually matters because we were assured by Corey during our prayer session it won't see the court. Also, George got out of his pickup. And another thing the defense likes to muddy the jury pool, just like that racist, profiler Zimmerman liked to beat up people and attacked his girlfriend and was violent and... did you hear that jury?

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Please people... I think we have a few Traybots reading here... even more than normal....

So.... bear that in mind..... misbehave all you want

The poor old dears have locked themselves away in SHAME in their own forum(s) so they HAVE to venture out to places like this to see any real analysis at all when new evidence is released... their Alpha cretins just copy and quote their own posts and then paste the same old same old they have posted before.... IMPRINTING can NOT be overcome and so they in effect fester in thier own previous secretions... not a pretty sight... I will have to pay Rumpole's Mole a bonus for her(his) work today

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...unless, of course, those photos or videos show that Martin had a propensity for violence (corroborating Zimmerman's claim that Martin assaulted him), or that Martin had a propensity for using drugs (corroborating Zimmerman's statement on the NEN call that Martin looked like he was on drugs).



(With such a display of grammatical skill, I can understand why Martin failed the FCAT.)



Obvious straw man. The defense is merely pointing out that the person that Zimmerman claimed "looked like he was on drugs", and assaulted him in fact had a propensity for both drug use and fighting.



There still remains no evidence that Zimmerman "pursued" Martin; and even if he did, such pursuit is not unlawful, did not statutorily justify Martin's use of force against Zimmerman, and did not preclude Zimmerman from using force, including deadly force, in self-defense.



Unlike the kindergarten graduation and Hollister shirt photos; those weren't intended to taint the jury pool, were they?



Wait: didn't you just say that the only admissible evidence involves the actions and state of Martin on the night of the altercation? So, the defense would be tainting the jury pool by pointing out Martin's (who emerged from the physical altercation utterly unscathed, save the gunshot wound) propensity for fighting and drug use, but the State would not taint the jury pool by pointing out matters that happened years ago, and taken entirely out of context?

That sounds like about $2 million worth of hypocrisy and double standards.

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Normal rational people.. with the normal SANE capacity to resolve Cognitive Dissonance as new facts come to light, should be realising now that they have been FOOLED into "backing the wrong horse"

They should be giving up on the notion that TM was an innocent child just buying candy.... they SHOULD have a mounting ANGER at Julison/Crump and the Scheme Team.. as well as Cory/BDLR and the Florida judicial system that has perpetrated this farce for over a year... using Tax payers money.... persecuting innocent citizens.... if anybody should riot... it should be the good citizens of Florida... but their targets should be the Schemers and political users.

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Video of O'Mara on Fox News a few hours ago

I think that will come in time, right now the shock and denial will prevent it. They will lash out at the Defense and any GZ supporter, in the meantime. I feel bad for them, not!

So eloquent...

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And did the family release that statement or did their PR firm?

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Here's a good exchange on another board between a GZ-supporter (chucky2) and a Trayvonite in deep denial:



"What do you mean there's no "confirmed shady person"? From GZ perspective, he called in someone he suspected looked shady...else why call TM in? Then TM takes off running. From GZ perspective, shady just got validated. From our perspectives, we can see from the evidence dumps, TM was in fact a shady person, regardless of how awesome his shady friends, some shady family, and shady lawyers feel about him (for their self serving reasons).



But he didn't "just" do that. He was mounted on the person he was beating. We don't expect US citizens in the US to get the shit beat out of them when they have means of not getting the shit beat out of them. This is like saying a woman only got a little raped. Yeah...No...



Right, and we'll never know, short of a video or multiple credible eyewitnesses. The prosecution doesn't either. If they don't know, then, why did they ruin GZs life trying to pin murder on him? Strange, don't you think?



See above on shady. TMs life was never in danger so long as he didn't assault GZ (at least, as far as we can tell). Since TM had rediculous amounts of time to make it back home (and for all we know, did make it back but then left), TM either took himself out of this "mortal danger" that wasn't there and then put himself back in it for some reason, or, he never took himself out of this "mortal danger" that wasn't there. There is no evidence to suggest that GZ was running around with gun drawn that TM could see, that GZ somehow communicated to TM that he was gonna lynch a nigga, etc. etc. Since there is no evidence of that, there is no "mortal danger" qualifier you can apply. We can apply shady to TM though, both from GZ perspective (assuming GZ can be believed) and most especially by TMs own actions (cell records, school records, crime records).

I will agree with you though. What I just wrote is all so true, it's outrageous that a public prosecution bowed to racially motived public pressure and charged someone they know they can't prove is guilty, and moreover, someone they don't even know is guilty. Yikes.



Those things really aren't why he's dead. That's like saying a chick buys a cute tank top, next week she wears it out, gets raped, and we say her buying the cute tank top a week ago is why she got raped. OK, yea, it possibly helped setup the rape, but, it doesn't matter because her buying the cute tank top is legal, so is wearing it. Not only is it legal, it's proper. Just like what GZ did that night leading up to the fight, at least according to him, which is all we have to go on.



We don't know that. It is remotely possible that TM ran from GZ, obviously either didn't go home or went home and then came back, and then, somehow, they literally bumped into each other and TM had to make a split second decision to fight or flight, and chose fight. I don't necessairily fault him for that if he truly wasn't setting up to ambush GZ. But if he was going to do that, he should have kept it standup. When you mount someone, you have taken the fight to fighting and winning, to, fighting, directly dominating, and winning. People can be in a fight and realize they're losing, and run away or back up and be like yo man you won. When you've mounted them and are directly dominating them without any real way for them to disengage, you've taken the danger of the fight to a whole new level.



Having spent more than a few tens of hours in some really shitty neighborhoods, and multitudes of hours in Chicago area traffic, your statement amazes me. Go hang out at rush hour in the Chicago area. Now go hang out in Ford Heights, IL about 1 AM on a nice warm summer night. I highly doubt you'd be stating that again. Honestly I cannot even believe you said that...it's...unbelievable...

Chuck"

Did anyone else hear Mike Galanos say that Crump and O'Mara will be on HLN Evening Express tonight - 5-7pm?

Crump and O'Mara? WTH? Shouldn't it be the prosecutor and O'Mara?

Oops! I guess Ryan wants to interview Crump.

It's time for the prosecution to do the right thing and dismiss charges against GZ/grant immunity in accordance with Florida laws.

Reasoning with people who have allowed emotion to triumph over logic is like trying to nail Jell-O to a tree - it can’t be done.

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I believe Crump and O'Mara are coming on HLN in a little while.

WTH does Crump have to do with the criminal case?

Just heard Crump will be on HLN shortly. Same old BS and the texts mean nothing. O'Mara up next.

I'm really peeved that my cable package doesn't include HLN

He is lawyer for "Da Famly ... so I guess legit to comment on the character of TM... especially comment on the clear FALSE depictions the family have foisted on the public.... they and Crump himself have a LOT to answer for... but I am SURE we get nothing like the truth from crump even now....

5th DCA Tomorrow re Crump Depo? The fun just keeps coming!

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He's the independent prosecutor, right?

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From GZ Legal Site

http://www.gzlegalcase.com/




MOTION FOR SANCTIONS AGAINST STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR DISCOVERY VIOLATIONS AND REQUEST FOR JUDICIAL INQUIRY INTO VIOLATIONS

on 23 May 2013.
The following has been filed with the Court:

MOTION FOR SANCTIONS AGAINST STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR DISCOVERY VIOLATIONS AND REQUEST FOR JUDICIAL INQUIRY INTO VIOLATIONS
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/mo ... ctions.pdf

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