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The Trial by Kafka

http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/7849/pg7849.html

"There is no doubt," he said quietly, "that there is some enormous organisation determining what is said by this court. In my case this includes my arrest and the examination taking place here today, an organisation that employs policemen who can be bribed, oafish supervisors and judges of whom nothing better can be said than that they are not as arrogant as some others. This organisation even maintains a high-level judiciary along with its train of countless servants, scribes, policemen and all the other assistance that it needs, perhaps even executioners and torturers - I'm not afraid of using those words. And what, gentlemen, is the purpose of this enormous organisation? Its purpose is to arrest innocent people and wage pointless prosecutions against them which, as in my case, lead to no result. How are we to avoid those in office becoming deeply corrupt when everything is devoid of meaning?


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They should pass out flyers with her picture - this rabid, vicious, felonious chick has harassed MANY of the GZ supporters, members of the media and especially Robert Zimmerman, Jr. They should be warned!


This is so much like the crazies who showed up at the Casey Anthony trial.

I'll never forget how they "corralled" them in a taped off square and the poor souls just kept bleating when a camera got near them. It was as though they were totally incapable of realizing how mentally ill they looked. LOL


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The Trial by Kafka

http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/7849/pg7849.html

"There is no doubt," he said quietly, "that there is some enormous organisation determining what is said by this court. In my case this includes my arrest and the examination taking place here today, an organisation that employs policemen who can be bribed, oafish supervisors and judges of whom nothing better can be said than that they are not as arrogant as some others. This organisation even maintains a high-level judiciary along with its train of countless servants, scribes, policemen and all the other assistance that it needs, perhaps even executioners and torturers - I'm not afraid of using those words. And what, gentlemen, is the purpose of this enormous organisation? Its purpose is to arrest innocent people and wage pointless prosecutions against them which, as in my case, lead to no result. How are we to avoid those in office becoming deeply corrupt when everything is devoid of meaning?


Who knew.... Kafka saw Florida 90 years in the future.

I guess library copies will have to be reclassified.. removed from the "Fiction" section... moved to Reference:Florida - political/LE/Judiciary system.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:03 am 
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Pictured: George Zimmerman's defense release 'tape of Trayvon Martin speaking' which 'authenticates screams heard on 911 call before fatal shooting is their client'

By Daily Mail Reporter and Associated Press
PUBLISHED: 23:09 GMT, 9 June 2013 | UPDATED: 00:47 GMT, 10 June 2013

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A video clip has been released by George Zimmerman's defense team who claim it will prove that Zimmerman can be heard screaming for help on a 911 call made seconds before Trayvon Martin was shot dead.

The footage, released as Zimmerman prepares to go on trial for second-degree murder, appears to show two men fighting over a bicycle by the roadside.

Defense attorneys claim that the tape came from Trayvon's cellphone and that his voice can be heard in the background - making it possible to authenticate a crucial emergency call made shortly before the teenager was shot dead on February 26 last year in Florida.

The prosecution says that the video should not be allowed into court evidence, according to NBC.

The person who made the video recording cannot be seen on the tape.

Zimmerman shot Martin, 17, during a fight on a rainy night in February 2012.

Jury selection begins Monday in the second-degree murder trial, which is expected to last about six weeks.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nt-he.html

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George Zimmerman: Jury Selection Time
By Jeralyn, Section Crime in the News
Posted on Mon Jun 10, 2013 at 08:54:00 AM EST

Jury selection begins today in the George Zimmerman trial. The pre-trial Frye hearing has not been concluded.

500 jurors received summonses. About 100 to 200 will appear tommorrow to begin filling out questionnaires.

There will be six jurors on the case. They will be sequestered when the trial starts.

I expect both sides to have jury consultants either in the courtroom or right outside, doing background checks by computer.

O'Mara wants the trial to stay in Seminole County. The demographics are good his case.

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http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/6/10 ... ectionTime

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:59 am 
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O'Mara wants the trial to stay in Seminole County. The demographics are good his case.


Demographics of county are good, but jury pool is rigged. The entire system is corrupt. DCA is GZ's hope of acquittal.


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O'mara is confident so we shall see. Hoping this does not turn out to be a civil rights case.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... s/2399235/

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Now, 15 months after the teen's death and in a Seminole County courthouse just 6 miles from where Zimmerman shot Martin, a jury will decide a case in which racial profiling and Florida's self-defense laws are on trial alongside Zimmerman.

Did Zimmerman kill Martin because of his race or was Martin the aggressor and Zimmerman legally defended himself with lethal force?

Jury selection for the televised trial was set to begin Monday.

"Both sides are going to have to be careful in juror selection because the race issues in this case are highly charged," said Randy Reep, a criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor in Jacksonville. "If I was the prosecutor in this case, I would be desiring to have black people or other minorities who have had bad experiences based solely on their 'profileable' characteristics."

Those people, Reep said, are more likely to relate and side with Martin. He added that's a departure from common scenarios because usually defense attorneys want black jurors who they believe are more likely to be distrustful of law enforcement officials.

In this case, defense attorneys will be looking for people who don't believe police enforce rules enough, Reep said.

"The most important thing will be picking a jury that will follow the law, will look at the facts in a fair manner, and that is going to not be sidetracked by the other issues," said Elizabeth Parker, a former prosecutor who is now is now a criminal defense attorney in Palm Beach, Fla. "What is important is what happened that night."

Circuit Judge Debra Nelson, who has already ruled that the 500 potential jurors' identities will remain anonymous, will likely ask those summoned what they know about the case, Parker said. Nelson may later sequester the jurors selected to hear the case.

Zimmerman, who has pleaded not guilty to a second-degree murder charge, is claiming he shot Martin in self-defense. Free on $1 million bond, Zimmerman remains in hiding. Talks of Zimmerman's injuries from the alleged fight, the firing of Sanford's police chief, residents' 911 calls, and court hearings about voice experts have kept the case in media headlines.

Prosecutors plan to argue that Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, profiled Martin, wrongly assumed he was a criminal, disregarded a police dispatcher's instructions not to follow the teen, confronted the young man, and killed him.

What the six-person jury deciding Zimmerman's fate rules comes down to several key questions that experts say sit at the crux of the case: Who initiated the confrontation on that dark rainy night in Florida? Whose voice is heard screaming for help on a 911 tape moments before the shooting? And, can prosecutors overcome reasonable doubt without any eyewitnesses to the fight?

"Without eyewitnesses, without somebody saying this is exactly how it happened, it is a circumstantial case," Parker said. "Those are difficult cases for prosecutors. Reasonable doubt is a really high burden."

Still, what is clear is this: At about 7 p.m., Martin, wearing a dark hoodie, bought Skittles and iced tea at a 7-Eleven and then walked back to Retreat at Twin Lakes, a gated community, in Sanford, Fla. He staying with a friend of his father's after being suspended from his high school in Miami for having marijuana residue in a bag.

Five to 10 minutes later, Zimmerman spotted Martin walking in the neighborhood and called police. "We've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy," he told a dispatcher. "This guy looks like he's up to no good or he's on drugs or something."

Zimmerman began to follow Martin, remaining on the phone with the officer who later tells Zimmerman he doesn't need to follow Martin. The call continues for a few moments and then Zimmerman says police can call him when they arrive.

Exactly what happened next remains a mystery.

A 911 recording of a resident's call is an important clue. During the person's conversation with a dispatcher, a voice is heard screaming "Help!" The screaming abruptly ends with a loud gunshot.

Zimmerman's lawyer, Mark O'Mara, says the voice on the 911 call belongs to Zimmmerman, who was walking back to his vehicle when Martin punched him out of nowhere.

The two fought, began wrestling on the ground, and Zimmerman says Martin started slamming his head into a concrete sidewalk. Zimmerman then says Martin reached for Zimmerman's gun and that he shot the teen in response

O'Mara says he's confident that once a jury hears the facts, they will realize the case that's garnered the nation's attention is a straightforward self-defense case.


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Defense attorneys claim that the tape came from Trayvon's cellphone and that his voice can be heard in the background - making it possible to authenticate a crucial emergency call made shortly before the teenager was shot dead on February 26 last year in Florida.



MOM - We offer this video into evidence.
Sybrina - I can't tell whether that is Trayvon's voice or not.
BDLR - object, not authenticated.
Nelson - sustained.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:31 am 
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Laura Wilcox did her best to out herself and Bigboi when she demanded a "voice" at CTH

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... ckhousers/

From Mug shot links
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida ... 11940.html

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She looks like she is concentrating real hard on squeezing out a unibrow ...or something else!


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The Trayvon Martin Case; Update 31: Attack From Within and Vaudeville

http://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpress.c ... audeville/

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The Trayvon Martin Case; Update 31: Attack From Within and Vaudeville

http://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpress.c ... audeville/


That is a very interesting article. Thanks, Puzzler!!


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I think I have decided that I feel really sorry for that dog, Big Boi's owner. Can you imagine the guilt that person must be living with knowing GZ never would have bought a gun if only they had controlled their vicious animal?

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Puzzler wrote:
The Trayvon Martin Case; Update 31: Attack From Within and Vaudeville

http://statelymcdanielmanor.wordpress.c ... audeville/

I really enjoy these articles by Mike McDaniel! He carefully dissects and explains everything that happens. He even made clear the testimony of those two-hot-messes-for-expert-witnesses for the State - Owens and Reich - and that must not have been easy!


kbp - Hilarious bit about the head dog! :Gslap


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He even made clear the testimony of those two-hot-messes-for-expert-witnesses for the State - Owens and Reich - and that must not have been easy!

Yes, that article explained some things to me I wondered about, even though I had watched the whole proceedings. He makes things very clear.


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This is so much like the crazies who showed up at the Casey Anthony trial.

I'll never forget how they "corralled" them in a taped off square and the poor souls just kept bleating when a camera got near them. It was as though they were totally incapable of realizing how mentally ill they looked. LOL

This gave me such a funny mental picture - the sheeple "bleating" :84


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Select notes I pasted from the jury selection thread:

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1) From 8:06-8:46, counted 57 potential jurors: 6 BM, 11 BF, 17 W, Hispanic or Asian M, 23 W or Asian Females. SemCo is 11 percent black.

2) I expect that the jury pool is rigged and there will be at least 2 blacks on the jury.

3) I think with 500 pool... they should reject a few... quickly

4) What they plan to do is get 21 and ask them about other stuff all at once?
That is just plain nuts.... these are very person specific things.

5) Defense needs at least one white college educated male with a job and analytical thinking skills. They appear to have culled all of them prior to sending out juror summons.

6) They called letters A-F, so a lot more to come.

Until I got to #6, I had suspected that instead of any candidates for jury having been "culled" here, the order of appearance for questioing had the "white college educated male" type potential jurors in the last 100 called in and the "BM, ...BF, ...Hispanic" candidates loaded within the first 100.

If comment 1 is correct, then it seems difficult to believe comment 6. I wonder who is tracking the head count there?


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OMDAWG...I can't keep up. Just a bit of Twitter time and I have to go to bed. Working 7 days a week now and I am here to tell you it is interfering with the hearings/juror selection. Thanks to all for helping me keep up in the dead of the night!

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Hi Deb......
Glad we can help a little.. give you some snippets from the Court.

Jury selection is VERY important.... but so boring to sit through especially with all the delays.

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Bigboi likes to tweet the time that George's Curfew takes effect each day, so in reply.....



It appears that Bigboi has once again fallen into an alcohol induced coma and stopped tweeting for the day
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It is safe for intelligent, informed, sane people to discuss the GZ case on twitter... for a few hours
. :cool



If only Bigboi had kept her dog under control, when she was ordered to... Trayvon would still be alive..

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