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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:04 pm 
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O’Brien says he met Zimmerman at the neighborhood watch meeting.

Judge Nelson says the witness cannot testify as to what someone told him.

“What did you find out from the defendant at that meeting,” Mantei asks.

O’Brien says Zimmerman had already gone through a course with the Sanford Police Department.

He says everyone was introduced, they put out a sign-up sheet for block captains and people would watch to call police.

“Everybody was supposed to watch out for their neighbors…stay away, call police,” O’Brien says.

O’Brien says some people signed the sheet to be a block captain, but weren’t block captains to his knowledge.

“It was his program,” O’Brien says.

O’Mara objects for heresay.

Judge Nelson says he can testify to what the defendant told him.

O’Brien says anyone can do a neighborhood watch and it has nothing to do with the HOA.

O’Brien says Zimmerman would put out an email blast about incidents.

Mantei asks about the parking committee.

O’Mara objects on grounds of relevance, Mantei says he will show.

O’Brien says Zimmerman volunteered to help. The committee would enforce parking laws because there was no agreement with Sanford police to patrol.

“It involved a car parked in yellow, at a stop sign, or in front of a fire hydrant. We gave them 3 warnings before we had the car towed,” O’Brien says.

O’Brien says a person was caught on a weekday afternoon, when a gentleman in the middle of the street talked to them, and the person broke into a home while stucco workers watched him.

He says he texted Zimmerman about the arrest.

O’Brien says he sent an email that said the stucco guys were responsible for finding the guy as he walked down the street and followed him at a safe distance and called the police.

O’Brien says he gave praise to those people.

Mantei asks for the time frame. O’Brien says he would have to guess.

He says it was a couple months before the shooting related to the case.

Mantei finishes. O’Mara begins cross-examination.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:05 pm 
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Mr. O'Brian is a parking vigilante along with George.


Clearly O'Brien is a wannabe metermaid.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:06 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:07 pm 
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O’Mara asks if a neighborhood watch is a positive thing for the neighborhood.

O’Brien says he doesn’t’ think they needed it.

O’Mara asks about Sanford police patrolling the neighborhood.

O’Brien says people can be ticketed now for parking illegally.

O’Mara asks about the stucco workers.

O’Brien says the day they talked to the guy was different from the day the workers saw the man walking down the street.

O’Brien says the stucco workers followed the man at a close distance.

O’Mara takes a moment to meet with West and Zimmerman.

Mantei redirects.

Mantei mentions the question about the stucco people following the person. Mantei asks if a neighborhood watch person should have followed.

Since day one, the neighborhood watch, it was said at that meeting and every meeting after that, to stay at a safe distance and call 911,” O’Brien says.

O’Mara re-cross examines.

He asks about the following at a safe distance.

Mantei re-redirects with a question about following.

Judge Nelson breaks the jury for lunch until 1 p.m.

She asks the attorneys to approach the bench.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:08 pm 
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While we can joke about this, it's incredible that this is what the state is using as evidence of 2nd degree murder. Absolutely absurd!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:13 pm 
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flgirl543 wrote:
While we can joke about this, it's incredible that this is what the state is using as evidence of 2nd degree murder. Absolutely absurd!


Well, we can hope the jury will be so irritated, they find the state guilty of presenting this sham of a non-case.

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edit - reworded to clarify point

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:15 pm 
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Didn't the HOA President testify that the burglar was 18-19 y.o. and was black?
This burglary happened a couple of months before Feb. 2012?

This all seems to "align", no matter who is discussing it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:18 pm 
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It was 17 - 18 years old... black (may or may not have been wearing a hoodie)

The stucco guys followed... hunted this burglar like a rabid dawg... his only crime was BWCAB (Black while committing a burglary)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:22 pm 
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I know that several in the media were all thinking this is a slam dunk for the prosecution, especially how they praised the ballsey opening of Joe Guy. Since then, all the witnesses have been better for the defense. HLN here in America is kind of reeling about this. There whole network is pro-Trayvon yet they are not getting the fireworks they want.

HLN really gets my goat. Yesterday, after Joe Guy says the line "f***ing punks" over and over, and after a year it was disproved that he said "coons," Nancy Grace plays the audio and the subtitle read "F***ing c***ns."

I thought Anderson Cooper's coverage on their sister network, CNN, was pretty non-biased. Kudos A.C.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:27 pm 
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Dang I missed this witness. Was the HOA president asked about carrying a firearm?


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:32 pm 
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liesel wrote:



Nice to see that. I thought maybe I was isolated in a parallel universe.


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murderbythebook wrote:
Dang I missed this witness. Was the HOA president asked about carrying a firearm?


unless I missed it, no. There was questions about following suspects and getting involved though. If I am wrong, someone correct me.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:37 pm 
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Now we know why Bernie has not questioned any of the state's witnesses so far!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:39 pm 
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:Gslap :Gslap Guy has smoke coming out of his ears while trying to discredit his own witness, the neighborhood watch lady. Recommended George for citizens patrol. Say what??? :smoke


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Imagine trying to start a new watch program ...keep the HOA from canning a present program ...pricing insurance for the HOA with a watch program!



Local PD: 'hi, was wondering if we could help your community start a watch program?'

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unless I missed it, no. There was questions about following suspects and getting involved though. If I am wrong, someone correct me.


The Traybots have been yelling about GZ violating the rules of the HOA by carrying a firearm. Of course the rules do not supersede state law about CCF.


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Funny thing is the Traybots believe the prosecution is killing the defense right now :95 :98


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If the HOA was separate from the neighborhood watch, why did they pay the settlement? O'Brien is showing an attitude of not liking GZ.
Watching his testimony on HLN.

The weasel really looks like a weasel when he smiles.

This man is bitter over the settlement. I wonder how much it cost each resident.


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