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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:06 pm 
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Case documents in Trayvon case released
Barbara Liston, Reuters
First posted: Thursday, May 17, 2012 08:13 PM EDT
Updated: Thursday, May 17, 2012 08:23 PM EDT

Florida teenage shooting victim Trayvon Martin had traces of marijuana in his system when he was killed by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, according to case documents released on Thursday.
The medical examiner’s report was among nearly 200 pages and several audio recordings released in connection with the Feb. 26 shooting, which triggered civil rights protests across the United States and ignited debates over guns, self-defense laws and race relations in America.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:12 pm 
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Documents shed new light on Trayvon Martin killing
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Posted: Thursday, May 17, 2012 7:44 pm

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Trayvon Martin had marijuana in his system. He was shot through the heart at close range. George Zimmerman had a broken nose, bruises and bloody cuts on the back of his head.
The lead investigator wanted to charge Zimmerman with manslaughter in the weeks after the shooting but was overruled.
These are among the details revealed in nearly 200 pages of documents, photos and audio recordings that were released Thursday in a case that has riveted the nation. Yet it's still unclear what exactly happened and whether it was racially motivated.
The evidence supports Zimmerman's contention that he was being beat up when he fired the fatal shot.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:23 pm 
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Evidence Released In Trayvon Martin Case
Legal Analyst Believes Evidence Tips In Zimmerman's Favor

POSTED: 4:51 pm EDT May 17, 2012

SANFORD, Fla. -- The State Attorney's Office released evidence Thursday in the Trayvon Martin shooting death case.
George Zimmerman, 28, is charged with second-degree murder in Martin's death.
Dozens of audio files and almost 200 pages of documents were released. Many of the witness names were blacked out.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 12:00 am 
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The FBI still doesn't know who was screaming for help. :11
Dr. Drew said the amount of pot in Trayvon's system means nothing ... and would make T. laid back, not aggressive.
This will get very complicated and ugly too I believe. One person is fighting for his life (now), and the other one can't speak.

I felt Z. was driven by something ... ego, frustration I wondered? Maybe though it was from meds. One Dr. said "I would never prescribe both of those medicines to a patient at the same time." Oh boy. :95

Not sure why I feel this all started the minute Zimmerman left his truck. It didn't start with who threw the first punch.
I truly do feel that way ... and not sure why. I guess the others believe it "started" with the first blow. I said early on, I can see there are 2 "sides" in this case, and that is the division, I think? :37 That's what makes horse races...


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Oh forgot to say John" saw the fight - somewhere in the middle I think. No witness saw the beginning of the fight then? So all we have then is the word of the survivor? :97 I wish there was a witness who saw the beginning - the entire altercation for those who believe that is the crux of the matter... :94

I can see all of our sons in this case, and some of our grandsons. :54

We can't have vigilante's in our streets, can we? Scares me.

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Encounter between Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin 'avoidable,' cops said


The evidence — released by Special Prosecutor Angela Corey's office — included recorded witness interviews, dozens of photos, several videos, the autopsy and other investigative reports. It also confirmed that Sanford police at one point recommended a manslaughter charge.
The evidence, though, was also noteworthy for what was missing: any clear indication of who started the fight that led to the fatal shooting. The evidence released also did not include any of the statements 28-year-old Zimmerman made to police after the shooting.

....more at link (Including Audio and Video Evidence)
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc ... on-martin/

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Documents shed new light on Trayvon Martin killing
Associated Press
Posted: Thursday, May 17, 2012 7:44 pm

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Trayvon Martin had marijuana in his system. He was shot through the heart at close range. George Zimmerman had a broken nose, bruises and bloody cuts on the back of his head.
The lead investigator wanted to charge Zimmerman with manslaughter in the weeks after the shooting but was overruled.
These are among the details revealed in nearly 200 pages of documents, photos and audio recordings that were released Thursday in a case that has riveted the nation. Yet it's still unclear what exactly happened and whether it was racially motivated.
The evidence supports Zimmerman's contention that he was being beat up when he fired the fatal shot.

....more at link
http://fremonttribune.com/news/national ... z1vBftKEAw


I was not able to find where this picture was taken, anybody know? When I look at the vedio of GZ walking into the police station that night I sure did not see any blood on his head. It even looked like his hair was longer too. I would have thought the EMT would have taped his nose if it were broken, wouldn't they? Why did GZ get away & not charged when he got out of his truck after he was told not to. I would like to see what the law says about not following orders in a situation like this.
I just feel like GZ is trying to produce pictures & not owning up to his anger problems. IMO

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:11 pm 
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Hi Gold Star!! :28

I found out the Neighborhood Watch that Zimmerman started isn't a "Registered" one. What is that, and why is that?
Are they trained better what to do, what not to do?
Does his Neighborhood Watch consists of only 2 people? Self appointed Z. and his friend who always defends him on
Jane VM show?

Maybe if you are not Registered, attend meetings, learn more, have things reinforced, they have more freedom? OH MY!!
Maybe to even carry guns, etc. They are not supposed to. Some Sheriffs have said, "If you carry one, you will use it." Things like that are maybe what citizens learn in Registered Neighborhood Watch meetings? Z. of course said - "I was going to the store."

Z. failed the Police exam. He said it was his weight. He took it off, going to re-apply? I read there are many Psychological tests as part of that exam. Maybe he failed them? I don't know. Many have said they don't think it is wise for a person like him - - to carry a gun. He has powerful drugs prescribed to him.

I think in hindsight, they were correct. :45


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:8 Lilly says HELLO!! :28

:81 Lucy says HELLO!! :28


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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:14 pm 
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Evidence against Zimmerman lacking on key issue

Records released by prosecutors last week show little evidence that George Zimmerman acted with malice when he shot Trayvon Martin. Prosecutors will have to prove that intent in order to get a conviction for second-degree murder.

By Scott Hiaasen, Audra D.S. Burch and Frances Robles
shiaasen@miamiherald.com

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A judge must review a Stand Your Ground defense prior to trial, and the case must be dismissed if the evidence shows it is more likely than not that the person was acting in self-defense — a lower standard of evidence than the one prosecutors must meet to get a conviction. Even if Zimmerman’s conduct sparked the confrontation, he could still be protected by the Stand Your Ground if he did not strike the first blow, experts say.
“Whether he started it or Trayvon started it, we don’t know,” Weiner said. “There’s a real chance the case will be tossed out.”
Even if the case is not dismissed, at trial Zimmerman can invoke Stand Your Ground along with a traditional self-defense claim.


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I wonder what will happen in FL if this case is thrown out? Sometimes I think there might be a compromise verdict...
to keep the peace in FL, that is if FL has any peace. Seems like lots of things go on down there, and it's not always aliens. :95

Wonder if Trayvon felt he was standing his own ground ... being followed by this "creepy person"? (He said that to his girl on the phone.)
Probably. George thought he was doing his "job" but I don't think was trained - was he? They are NEVER supposed to confront people, are they? Just look - report.

Looks like no one saw the entire confrontation, so we are left with "he says" I guess. I would like to know the truth. This is not pretty!
I know the accused so often lie ... to save their life. Most times, I would guess... :97

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But for "Political" considerations following the initial cries of racism and the fanning of the flames by media, and subsequent fears (threats) of race riots etc.... I don't think GZ would have been charged at all. I think LE got it right in the first place.

If not for the imposed "racial" component.. this case would be just one of thousands of similar incidents... physical confrontation, ending in death when a gun is involved. A tragedy none the less... but true crime forums would not be in a flap over it.

I'd like to think the legal system will now deal with this case fairly..not swayed by mob opinions.

It looks to me like self defence... so the matter should be resolved at a SYG hearing.

If it goes to trial I can NOT see a charge of Murder2 succeeding... but who knows with a jury involved? I hope they consider the evidence and not the hysteria hitting Media and blog sites at the moment.

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Drop George Zimmerman’s murder charge
New evidence suggests Trayvon Martin's killer acted in self-defense

By Alan Dershowitz / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Published: Friday, May 18, 2012, 3:55 AM
Updated: Friday, May 18, 2012, 3:55 AM

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A medical report by George Zimmerman’s doctor has disclosed that Zimmerman had a fractured nose, two black eyes, two lacerations on the back of his head and a back injury on the day after the fatal shooting. If this evidence turns out to be valid, the prosecutor will have no choice but to drop the second-degree murder charge against Zimmerman — if she wants to act ethically, lawfully and professionally.
There is, of course, no assurance that the special prosecutor handling the case, State Attorney Angela Corey, will do the right thing. Because until now, her actions have been anything but ethical, lawful and professional.


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This case is being featured on Geraldo..Fox News.... live now.

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Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump and George Zimmerman's lawyer Mark O'Mara

Crump sounds much like the people "blogging" about this case :13
Discussing snippets of evidence....

O'Mara has far more class.. pointing out that NEITHER of them are supposed to be discussing specific evidence... but rather waiting for Trial to do that.

Nothing new was revealed (as expected)

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Stand Your Ground law is I think, a good law for inside your home. Pretty cut and dry. :18

I think some law makers, and me too, wonder if it's a good law for outside the home? :42


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The appropriateness (or not) of the law is a separate issue.

It is the law as far as this case is concerned

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O'Mara: Corey has released only about half of her Zimmerman evidence
4:29 p.m. EST, May 21, 2012
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel

George Zimmerman's lawyer on Monday estimated that prosecutors have only released about half the evidence they've gathered against his client and warned people not to jump to conclusions.
Mark O'Mara, in a blog post, said he would have no comment about the evidence.
Nearly 200 pages of paperwork, scores of crime scene photos, dozens of recorded witness interviews and several pieces of video were released Thursday by Special Prosecutor Angela Corey.

Criminal defense lawyers who've reviewed it have been critical of Corey, accusing her of filing a second-degree murder charge without enough evidence to support it.
But O'Mara on Monday wrote that that would be premature.
He estimated that about half of the evidence has yet to be released. He did not specify what that included, but an Orlando Sentinel review suggests it includes Zimmerman's five statements, cell phone records, some crime scene photos, medical records, witness names and other things.
Attorneys for both sides have said they don't want witness names released for fear that they'll be harassed.


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Second By Second! Sanford Police Break Down Timeline Of Trayvon Martin Shooting

As the evidence continues to be combed over and sifted through, the Sanford police has released the official timeline detailing exactly what happened the night George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin.

Based on the time frame, we can see that Zimmerman shot Trayvon 1 minute and 57 seconds after he hung up with the 911 dispatcher.

Spelled out down to the second, here is what happened the night Zimmerman fatally shot Trayvon, based on time-stamped calls to their dispatch center.

The time is read on a 24 hour clock, so as the time reads 1911: 12, it converts to 7:11pm and 12 seconds.

The timeline was pieced together from reports by the office of Special Prosecutor Angela Corey and prepared by Sanford police Investigator Chris Serino.

1911:12 Call received from George Zimmerman reporting suspicious person

1913:19 Zimmerman relays that suspicious person is running from him

1913:36 Dispatcher asks Zimmerman if he is following suspicious person

1913:36 Dispatcher advises Zimmerman "Okay; we don't need you to do that"

1915:23 Approximate time call with Zimmerman ends

1916:43 911 call placed by (blacked out name) where Zimmerman is heard screaming for help

1917:20 Shot fired; screams from Zimmerman cease

1917:40 Officer T. Smith arrives on scene

1919:43 Officer T. Smith locates and places Zimmerman in custody.



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I want to know more about George Zimmerman. Looked him up. People are consistent, I have found.
He let us know he is frustrated because he said "Those A.. H...s aways get away." And further, I think
he is frustrated because he really seems to want to be in Law Enforcement of some kind, like his father. He failed the Police
Exam. Said he was overweight. BUT I found out there is a Psychological part too to the Police exam. He could have failed both? He was taking some courses for a "Associate Degree"pertaining to something in L.E.

My friend's husband was kept out of the Army because of his eyes. She found out years later form his mother, it was also because he failed the "mental part" too. :94

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