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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:47 pm 
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Maybe I'm a lone voice on this, but I would much prefer that RT stay above this level of ad hominem and immaturity. It is completely unnecessary, and merely distracts from her self-immolating testimony.

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Good point Chip... I offend myself at times.

I will pull the offending post.

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I'd agree with this. I always cringed at the louts at JQ saying 'O'Smeara' and 'Gorge'.


Yes... it can easily go too far.... and as I already said Mea Culpa. :fish

I am glad Chip pointed it out.... as long as people are polite... feel free to moderate ME

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I am reading a terrific analytical Law Site called "Legal Insurrection" by a real live law professor W.A. Jacobson from Cornell University not some no name defunct law place in Podunk, KY like Leatherhead.

:Gslap :Gslap Freddy is beside himself with O'Mara's cross of the neighbor who decided to embellish her story in court yesterday. It is amazing how these witnesses fall into the 1000 yard facial stare showing there disapproval of O'Mara and West on cross. Is that supposed to validate their questionable testimony?
This is priceless. The wife of the guy who took pictures of Zimmerman on the scene denies her husband showed her the pictures.


That is about as believable as the witness yesterday who claimed she never talked to her sister about what she saw that night. LOL


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What bothers me the most is that her account of that night has been so tainted we will never know the truth.

I think Mr. Martin attacked Mr. Zimmerman, but it would really fill out the gaps if we really knew what Mr. Martin was thinking right before he acted.


We do know he called George a crazy ass cracker. I would think this indicates "attitude". I don't see it as fear. Mr. West needs to pick apart every word she said Trayvon said. I have a feeling, Rachel will be n the stand for a lot longer than two hours.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:55 pm 
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Question(s):

If Witness #8 said one thing under oath in disposition, and alters that in court -- are there any legal consequences for her?

If she in fact goes on-line tonight to tweet or chat, or communicates with anyone in any other way about the trial and it's uncovered, what would the judge do about that? And would the defense be able to use that kind of disregard for the legal process to impeach her character to the jury?

When West asked early in his cross what she knew about what happened to Trayvon, and she said she never watched the news, knowing what he knows about her Facebook use, why didn't he follow up and ask if she heard anything about it on social media?

She claims she was concerned for Trayvon's safety when he first said 'a cracker' was following him (she worried it could be a 'molester'). But after a subsequent confrontation with that possible molester, followed by the well known distinct sounds of 'wet thuds' on wet grass' and a disconnected phone, why didn't she try to reconnect with Trayvon more then one time? Could it be she wasn't worried about his safety at that point because she never heard any interchange between George & Trayvon? And shouldn't West have followed up with that line of questioning?

And I already know the answer to this question, but I'll pose it anyway: Why didn't West ask Witness #8 if it was common for Trayvon Martin to use disparaging racist terms like "cracker" for Whites, to establish the counter-claim it Trayvon's racist inclinations that caused him to confront and attack 'cracker' George Zimmerman?

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I would like to express my support for immaturity.


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taurus wrote:
I'm under fire elsewhere, anyone still have the link to Rachel's facebook?

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She wiped it. Described here: http://t.co/AgD8BrR1q2

That link is about her Twitter account.


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HLN panning West's cross of Rachel. Saying she controlled his questions.


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Hours of calls and hundreds of texts, but DeeDee never tried TM the following day? Or the day after? Or the day after that? Just quit communicating?


Didn't she say she didn't know for a couple of days he had died? So she went cold turkey with the calls and texts?


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John_Galt wrote:
I would like to express my support for immaturity.



Also noted... and approved :D

As you can see from my typical posting style.

Being a forum owner/dictator is a dirty job... but somebody has to do it.

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taurus wrote:
HLN panning West's cross of Rachel. Saying she controlled his questions.

West should have jumped immediately to impeaching her... wait, he can't do it that way.


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So now i am debating with someone on whether or not TM de end up right near his dad's place and then went back to confront GZ. This Traybot is claiming the since we don't know what DeeDee means by "Near", it could be all the way down by where his body was found. Didn't I hearher say she heard people around Trayvon and that she thought he would be safe? What evidence is there that Trayvon went to his dad's, or really close and went back to confront GZ?

Oh, i could have swore I heard her say "in the second yard over", is this true? Cause if Trayvon told her that then doesn't it mean we can say that he did go back north to confront GZ?


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flgirl543 wrote:

We do know he called George a crazy ass cracker. I would think this indicates "attitude". I don't see it as fear. Mr. West needs to pick apart every word she said Trayvon said. I have a feeling, Rachel will be n the stand for a lot longer than two hours.

Sounds very hostile to me. Goes back to the projection that is so common... They accused GZ, but it was actually TM™ who profiled and had animosity.

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So now i am debating with someone on whether or not TM de end up right near his dad's place and then went back to confront GZ. This Traybot is claiming the since we don't know what DeeDee means by "Near", it could be all the way down by where his body was found. Didn't I hearher say she heard people around Trayvon and that she thought he would be safe? What evidence is there that Trayvon went to his dad's, or really close and went back to confront GZ?

Oh, i could have swore I heard her say "in the second yard over", is this true? Cause if Trayvon told her that then doesn't it mean we can say that he did go back north to confront GZ?

I heard her say a couple houses, I thought.

Recall that George walked from street to street on the cut through "Tee". Also, the call between DD & Trayvon ended about a minute after George's NEN call. How could Trayvon be talking to her if he was hiding near the Tee? George would have heard him.

Also, why did both Tracy and Brandi say Trayvon had been on the porch/patio?


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Who KNOWS what Dee Dee means? Certyainly NOT DeeDee as was evidenced today.

We have heard how both Crump and especially BDLR asked her leading quetions which fed her answers consistent with the narrative they already had in mind. IMO she should be excluded as a witness for that reason alone. Contaminated by the interviews we can hear on tape. And you can bet away from taping contaminated even further.

Her mental competence is in question on top of that.

After all that it is a bit silly to be parsing the DETAILS of what she says... it is a mishmash of her unreliable memories at the time.. a combination of what TM actually said and her own imagination about what happened. Throw in Crump and BDLR suggesting stuff to a very susceptible, mentally challenged woman.. and it is close to nonsense.

Her "Right by his father house" could mean to her... right at Brandi's door... or in the same block as Brandi's house or even just at TRATL But if we take that statement as is (it is in evidence), then I think it will be seen as close to the back door of Brandi's house.

George says he was attacked at the T... all the witnesses confirm the altercation was up there.. and obviously TM's body ended up near there... so TM must have come back (If you give any credit to DD testimony)

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I heard her say a couple houses, I thought.
Yes but how would she KNOW that? She is making it up. Embelishing the story as she gets cues from people questioning her..... this is becoming more farcical by the minute. The more she is questioned the more she will revise.


My bet is that... her mental problems.. and likely effects of alcohol.. perhaps drugs perhaps prescription meds means she does not really remember ANYTHING of the night. She barely remembers what she has been led to say in previous interviews

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Was it my Jabba image that was offensive? Sorry.

I firmly believe in being offensive, particularly toward those who are trying to completely destroy our justice system and our country.

But I didn't mean to bother anyone here.

Or was it other posts as well?


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Trayvon profiled George as a creepy ass cracker rapist nigga. With a depraved mind, Travyon then sucker punched George and beat his head against a concrete sidewalk.


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guitarjeff wrote:
So now i am debating with someone on whether or not TM de end up right near his dad's place and then went back to confront GZ. This Traybot is claiming the since we don't know what DeeDee means by "Near", it could be all the way down by where his body was found. Didn't I hearher say she heard people around Trayvon and that she thought he would be safe? What evidence is there that Trayvon went to his dad's, or really close and went back to confront GZ?

Oh, i could have swore I heard her say "in the second yard over", is this true? Cause if Trayvon told her that then doesn't it mean we can say that he did go back north to confront GZ?

I heard her say "two houses down" from Green's place. Must have meant two doors because two buildings is far outside the other testimony.

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Was it my Jabba image that was offensive? Sorry.

I firmly believe in being offensive, particularly toward those who are trying to completely destroy our justice system and our country.

But I didn't mean to bother anyone here.

Or was it other posts as well?

Yes... but I was going to quietly delete it and forget about it. :)

Just a bit too much... DD is a civilian.. unlike say Crump, or Bernie, even the Made for TV family.

Oh... and it was too big :slap

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Yes but how would she KNOW that? She is making it up. Embelishing the story as she gets cues from people questioning her..... this is becoming more farcical by the minute. The more she is questioned the more she will revise.


My bet is that... her mental problems.. and likely effects of alcohol.. perhaps drugs perhaps prescription meds means she does not really remember ANYTHING of the night. She barely remembers what she has been led to say in previous interviews

Both of your posts in this vein are inarguably true. However, guitarjeff is arguing with Trayborg™ and they accept this nonsense and hold it dearer than gospel. So for guitarjeff's purposes, we replied with a Trayborg™ approved, Trayborg™ smack-down of DD "fact".

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