I missed this if it was posted earlier.

UNDERSTANDING OBAMA'S ZIMMERMAN COP-OUT
by Jack Cashill

Obama did acknowledge that young men black men “are disproportionately both victims and perpetrators of violence.” It was at this point in his talk that Obama had the opportunity to shake up the debate, to show that he was not one of the “nation cowards” his attorney general had derided.

Instead Obama pulled his ultimate punch, not in what he said, but in what he did not say. Obama let the idea stand that Martin was one of the victims of violence, but not one of the perpetrators.

If the president had called attention to the fractures in Martin’s domestic life, his suppressed criminal record, his all but unseen descent into drugs and violence, and especially his reckless attack on Zimmerman, Obama might have lent a dollop of moral seriousness to his remarks about “helping young African-American men feel that they’re a full part of this society.”

But he did not. Instead, he tacitly encouraged his audience to project their anger and anxiety on to racial scapegoat, George Zimmerman. Jesse “I want to cut his nuts out” Jackson had scared Obama off the track of serious cultural reform five years earlier. He never got back on.

“I am my brother’s keeper,” said Barack Obama in his breakthrough speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. “I am my sister’s keeper – that makes this country work.”

George Zimmerman believed that, too, really believed it. His friends called him “Tugboat,” the one who always came to help people out. He helped a black homeless man find justice. He helped guide two black teens through life. He helped a terrified mother secure her house. He helped his wary neighbors secure their community.

Even after the verdict, when Zimmerman had reason to run and hide, he helped rescue a family from their overturned SUV. And although he supported Obama, and lobbied for Obama, and voted for Obama at least once, in the final analysis he did not look enough like Obama to be his son, and that made all the difference.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/understandin ... an-cop-out

Thanks, FreeGZ. If it was already posted, I missed it too.

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Why at this point in time, do they list this case as a SYG? There are a number of false or misleading details listed among the findings, especially the "weighting the circumstances" section. I know the findings in this article are used by many who oppose the law, but based on the conclusions reached in this case, IMO, it's not worth the paper it's written on.

http://www.tampabay.com/stand-your-grou ... s/case_139

What happened: George Zimmerman was driving in his gated neighborhood when he spotted Trayvon Martin, 17, walking on a paved path between two sets of townhouses. Zimmerman, head of the Neighborhood Watch, called the police to report a suspicious person and began following Martin, first in a car and later on foot. Zimmerman's father said his son said Martin then threatened him, punched him in the nose and knocked him to the concrete. Zimmerman pulled a gun from a holster on his waist and shot Martin. Zimmerman claimed self-defense and was found not guilty by a jury on July 13, 2013.

Sorry if I missed this and it has already been posted.

From Breitbart:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... w-campaign

NAACP Launches 'Trayvon's Law' Campaign

So does that mean we get to call them the Righteous Brothers now?

unitron!

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Thanks, Flgirl543 and SheStone! I hadn't seen either one but even so, more info is better than low info, amirite?

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They did this last year (2012) and got nowhere. However, this year is different because elections are coming in 2014. They need to firm up their base by giving the people what they want.

In 776.32 there is simple self defense. Their argument resides in the wording of 776.012 and 776.013. Then there is 776.041 and if any changes are made I think it might be in .041, Use of Force by the Aggressor. That still doesn't give another person the right to give a beatdown on another.

I still don't think that any major changes will be made. 2nd Amendment right to protect oneself is fundamental of all persons. Black, white, brown, or periwinkle purple.

Anywhoo, just my opinion!

BREAKING NEWS! NEW VIDEO FROM THOSE MISSING MIN OF WHERE TM WENT AFT LEFT 7-11,12 YR OLD TM WENT TO ANOTHER STORE

Kid looks right age... fits the Scheme Team description

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It creepy to me that these Lawyers are all over their female clients

Seriously!! We are supposed to believe that Rachel and TM were the best of friends....he wasn't her type at all.

https://twitter.com/MsRachel_94

Well, I would say something here, but I am afraid Rumpold would ban me.

That makes sense and no doubt you're right about the election dictating their actions, but as a Florida taxpayer and as a US citizen, it really ticks me off. Guess what's going to happen the next time these people don't get their way about something? And guess who's going to pay for it?

If the law had not just been reviewed last year, they may have had a point - take a look at it. But it was. This smacks of 'we just want a arresssss' - which became 'we just wanna day in court', and of course they ended up admitting 'we just wanna conviction of the top count'.

Now they "just" want the law reviewed - and that will change to demanding it be amended, and then demanding its repeal. That will last until someone of the right color defends themselves against a violent attack by someone of the color that fits the preferred narrative (or close enough, as in the cases of GZ or even Maddy/B29), at which time they'll demand the opposite result. Round and round it goes, depending on who benefits and how much money can be extorted over it.

The US was designed to be a nation of laws, not a nation of mob rule. Every time our elected representatives ignore or pervert the law to enhance their electoral prospects, we creep ever closer to emulating the French Revolution. What's really scary is that there are those calling for just that, who believe that's what they want - justice delivered French Revolution style, according to the whims of the mob. Oh, most don't have much, if any, concept of what they're demanding, but that's what it boils down to just the same.

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." ~ George Santayana

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, nice find on those missing minutes, arkansasmimi! I hope you're all recovered now and feeling better than normal.

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Obama = Marie Antionette?

auscitizenmom - want a slice of cake?

( FTR - I've read she didn't really say that.)

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Ha. And the NEN operator didn't tell George to stay in the CAR!

ZIMMERMAN VERDICT, PART 11: RATING THE LAWYERS (DEFENSE)

Watching the Zimmerman trial in 2013 was like watching the OJ Simpson trial in 1995: while the general public got a hell of an education on how these things work thanks to live TV trial coverage, those “in the business” were assessing the skills and strategies of the key players.

http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAy ... s-defense/

RE "flgirl543" Why at this point in time, do they list this case as a SYG? There are a number of false or misleading details listed among the findings, especially the "weighting the circumstances" section.
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flgirl:
The database includes SYG 'related' cases, not only those that went to trial, but may have been considered SYG initially (like during the initial Zimmerman police investigation, when they decided not to press charges).

Yesterday I sent the following email to the newspaper's corrections department; I doubt a single complaint will do much good, but if they get enough pointed feedback they may amend it, so if anyone wants to copy it and send it, be my guest):

TO: corrections@sptimes.com
MESSAGE:
By now, after the volume of testimony at trial, you MUST know the Stand Your Ground 'Weighing the circumstances' descriptions are incorrect.

You need to change the two following statements to the Unclear/disputed column:

-Did the defendant pursue the victim?
-Could the defendant have retreated to avoid the conflict?

Zimmerman did not pursue the victim - he 'followed' him briefly; then stopped when that was suggested by the operator.

Zimmerman COULD NOT retreat to avoid the conflict, if as the trail evidence suggested, he was attacked and thrown to the ground.

The check marks in the YES column show non objective bias. You need to change them!

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