Did Guy say 12?

Anyone?

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Yes. Yes he did.

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"That the attacker sustained a mortal wound is a matter that should have been considered by the deceased before he committed himself to the task he undertook." - 5th DCA, Stinson v. State (Fl)

12:53 p.m.
Judge Nelson tells the jurors she will instruct them about the law of the case.

Guy resumes by telling them they should listen to the court.

He says the defense brought up in their summation and in trial – race.

The case is not about race, he says, but right and wrong.

He says they should ask themselves if the roles were reversed with 28-year-old Zimmerman walking home in a hoodie and 17-year-old in a car called the police with hate in his heart, and if it was Martin who shot and killed Zimmerman what the verdict would be.

“To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe the truth.”

Guy shows the jury a photo of Martin’s body.

He says the self-serving statements and lies and hate in Zimmerman’s heart, physical evidence are the truth.

He thanks them for their time.

Judge Nelson says she will read the instructions by their choice.

They choose after lunch.

The jury is dismissed until 2 p.m.

She asks counsel to approach for a moment.

12:48 p.m.
Guy says the only evidence Root had was from the defendant and his opinion was based on that.

He says the defendant gave so many statements to justify his actions and kept increasing and when it got to Hannity it was “God’s plan.”

Guy points out the wound was a contact wound with the shirt, asking if Zimmerman pushed the gun against his chest.

He says reasonable doubt needs to go to an element of the crime.

O’Mara asks to approach the bench.

12:45 p.m.
Guy says Zimmerman changed what Martin said to him and about him reaching for the gun.

He says Zimmerman changed where he put his car and about getting the cell phone out.

He shows a slide from the neighborhood watch training about not being the “vigilante police.”

He shows a portion of the coordinator book.

Guy asks them to think about the term “a responsible gun owner.”

He asks about what Zimmerman did after the gunshot.

“The bottom line is who is responsible for Trayvon Martin lying on that ground?” Guy asks.

He asks who is responsible for the state not being able to pull Martin there to talk.

He says Martin is not and will never be a piece of cardboard.

He says the “living” quote again.

He says it’s not like TV where all the witnesses are well-dressed and educated. He says there are no Rachel Jeantel’s on CSI.

He says in real life they get everything from the good, bad and indifferent.

He tells them to remember that if they don’t like some of the witnesses or some of the evidence, they should ask them self who produced the trial.

“It was the defendant. He chose everything and that’s why we’re here,” Guy says.

He says he’s not asking them to fill gaps, but to do what they do every day and start from the beginning.

Their verdict will not change the past, he says, but will forever define it.

“What is that when a grown man, frustrated, angry, with hate in his heart, gets out of his car and follows a child, a stranger and shoots him in the heart,” Guy asks.

He says that is their call.

Guy says the defense went through the justifiable use of deadly force and he will go through it because it is their burden.

Guy says the defense forgot a witness - Folgate.

Zimmerman was an estimated 18 feet away from Good and he knew people were opening their windows and doors.

He asks if Zimmerman really needed to shoot Martin.

Guy asks why Martin didn’t go home. He asks if Martin wanted to lead the defendant to his residence.

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Lunch, but first....


DRINK

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Here is my bigger question. Let's say the jury is moved EMOTIONALLY and finds hm guilty of something. It is the appeals courts JOB to make sure the jury actually used REAL evidence and not emotion? I am asking, I guess, what exactly is the appeals courts real job. Is it just to settle discovery problems and such, or is part of their job also to make sure the jury had and used reasonable evidence. In other words, if the state came out and said, "He's guilty, uh, BECAUSE HE'S A BIG FAT RACIST" and the jury believes this without the state actually showing beyond a reasonable doubt that he could not have been using proper self defense, is it the appeals courts JOB to make sure they DID NOT just convict because they believed he was a big, fat, meanie racists?

Not happy about the juror reports, especially B29 crying. But remember, B29 was high strung, the one from Chicago with a lot of children.

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The only hate and lies I've seen in this case has been from the prosecution.

All emotion with a passing waive at the word "evidence" without really showing any.

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I didn't see that reported by Rene Stutzman or any one else just that one person so don't know if it is true or not.

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It could have been her eye itched but a Trayborg sees it as wiping a tear away...............

Thanks! I guess an objection would serve little purpose with the jury having seen Chad and heard how old he is.

Show Trial - jury is not real important

By lying.

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Test

I know there are plans to deploy LE in case of Not very Civil unrest (riots)....

But.... has anybody though to have armies of counsellors on hand to cope with splody head Traybots?

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