West: [hypothetical self defense scenarios]

Weasel: Your Honor, unring that bell

Nelson: sustained

Weasel can't even figure out how to object without adding to the lecture on self defense law!

LMAO!

ISN'T THIS BEAUTIFUL!!!!!! The state and Nelson KNEW they had made a HUGE error in literally SECONDS after West began cross. You could actually SEE them realize what they had just done. You could see them thinking, "Boy, we stepped in to a pile there"

WOW..... weasel gets an objection overruled... he is whining that it's too specific to this case... which HELPS drive home to jury that all this IS VERY specific to this case.

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I can't believe the dipstick Weasel will redirect ...keep the door open for more!

West has had enough fun... lets the guy go. Weasel's turn.... WEST now objects


DRINK

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Now Weasel will try to build hypotheticals that would not allow self defense, but...


Carter already told us the injuries present permit it so his hypo went to _____!

10:33 a.m.
Mantei asks about the concept of imperfect self-defense.

Carter says he is talking about with the concept is the use of excessive force.

Mantei asks what the ultimate use of force would be.

Carter says a gunshot would be an example.

Mantei finishes questioning.

The state calls their next witness.

10:30 a.m.
West finishes questioning. Mantei redirects.

He asks about the claim of self-defense and if provoking the action was in their class discussion.

West objects and asks to be heard at the bench for a sidebar.

10:29 a.m.
Mantei objects to the questioning.

Judge Nelson reminds the witness that his discussion is limited to what he taught in the course.

West asks how Carter would explain the Florida self-defense concept.

Carter says it is fluid and changing of a certain fact can weigh differently whether someone acted reasonably.

He says he showed YouTube videos and stopped them frame-by-frame going over whether the person was acting reasonably.

West asks about the issue of injuries and the fear of the injury.

Carter says it is imminent fear and the fact alone that there isn’t one doesn’t mean the person didn’t have fear. He says injuries show or support a reasonable fear.

Carter says they also talked about imperfect self-defense, describing it as a person being attacked and taking it a step forward and becoming the aggressor.

West asks about the concept and if he approached Carter.

Carter says he would be taking it a step forward if he used a video camera to hit him back.

West asks about a similar situation if he was screaming for help.

Mantei objects.

West asks a similar question

Mantei objects again. Judge Nelson asks him to rephrase the question.

West asks about the tables being turned and the person being attacked using more force back.

Carter explains it back, saying yes, that would be an example of imperfect self-defense.

Mantei objects. Judge Nelson overrules.

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There was no saving that testimony for the state...

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West IS awesome!!

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"solidify my chances of a career in law enforcement"

Let Trayvon's records in to see what career he was working to solidify!

Witness: Jim Krzenski

10:34 a.m.
Jim Krzenski takes the stand. He works for the Sanford Police Department.

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Finished with that witness

DRINK

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Next witness Skype... booked for 11AM... so recess until then

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Nelson: Call your next witness

Weasel: Can we approach your honor... HELP!!!

We're getting the skype! Must be a delay for deposition?

WHAT??? She will have the jury back at 11 and the skype started then? Where is the deposition? She must have decided the defense waived that.

The State HAS TO STOP THIS RIGHT NOW, or they have blown the case. The worst thing that could happen to them is that the jury gets a SHORT COURSE in what self defense is and details on how it works

HEEEEEE she calls long break at 10:36 because SHE KNOWS what just happened and they have to get a stratgey to now GET OUT OF this mess. Nelson just ATTEMPTED TO HELP THE STATE out of this, UNREAL!!!

Yes!

Love to buy him a drink... or an ice cream.... for him and his girls

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