It is currently Mon May 19, 2025 7:05 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 2620 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110 ... 131  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:26 am
Posts: 381
I think Rene Stutzman is captivated by him. I am sure the jury is paying attention to his dramatics.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:35 pm
Posts: 1056
More questions & questions about how Trayvon injured George? WTH does this do? dipsticks


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:29 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 31, 2013 3:52 pm
Posts: 45
I had to turn the sound off, I cannot even listen to this nonsense. Just like MOM warned them, he is coming out with the emotional garbage because they simply have no case based on evidence.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:26 am
Posts: 381


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:35 pm
Posts: 1056
SheStone wrote:
I think Rene Stutzman is captivated by him. I am sure the jury is paying attention to his dramatics.

She's still getting over seeing the morgue hpoto!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:26 am
Posts: 381
That is silly I imagine TM did see the gun when he got shot. Didn't they also originally try to claim GZ already had the gun out? How can he now make that claim?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:38 pm
Posts: 4269
Rumpole wrote:

I am SURE the jury will not find him guilty of anything.

There is a SMALL chance the Jury will be hung?

But I expect a quick decision unless there is one fool Juror.

Rioting to commence later tonight.

Yes - This ^^^

Sounds right to me. :)

_________________
All posts are my own opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of Random Topics. Differences are allowed here. ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:32 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:11 pm
Posts: 1376
Location: Arizona
I wish we had some tweets as to how the jurors were reacting to MOM and now to Guy.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:35 pm
Posts: 1056
...stay in car...


I bet Crump is FINALLY happy!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:34 am
Posts: 892
Location: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Strangely, I don't remember the State putting on any actual evidence to prove that:

1) It is physically impossible to reach a concealed handgun with someone mounting you, at any position
2) Martin could not have seen Zimmerman's IWB-holstered handgun
3) It is physically impossible for Martin to have run off, then come back to circle Zimmerman's vehicle, then run off again

And the real zinger:

Guy: "This case isn't about Stand Your Ground. It's about not getting out of your car."

_________________
"That the attacker sustained a mortal wound is a matter that should have been considered by the deceased before he committed himself to the task he undertook." - 5th DCA, Stinson v. State (Fl)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:35 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:38 pm
Posts: 4269
SheStone wrote:

I don't recall that. I only recall the State filed a motion in limine about not letting the defense do that. I don't remember how that turned out. I presume since O'Mara went there it was allowed.

Thanks. :)

_________________
All posts are my own opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of Random Topics. Differences are allowed here. ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:35 pm 
Offline
ADMIN
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:30 pm
Posts: 57118
Location: Pomeroy's Wine Bar
12:32 p.m.
“If he hadn’t committed a crime, why did he lie so many times,” Guy says.

Guy says Zimmerman lied in saying Noffke told him to get an address.

He says Zimmerman lied when he said he told police to meet him at his car.

Zimmerman lied about being confronted, Guy says.

He lied about Martin covering his mouth and nose, he says.

He asks if there would be blood on the sticks used on Martin’s fingernails.

Guy points out the concrete.

He says if Zimmerman was bashed over and over he wouldn’t look like he did in the photos.

Guy says he lied about being punched dozens of times.

He says Martin had a right to defend himself too.

He says Zimmerman didn’t complain of a headache and sought treatment for a note for work.

Zimmerman lied about Martin seeing the gun, Guy says.

He asks if Martin saw the gun if there would be a gunshot at 90 degrees in his chest.

Zimmerman lied about spreading Martin’s hands out, Guy says.

He says Martin’s hands were clutching the bullet wound in his chest.

Zimmerman lied about Martin circling his car to make him sound menacing, Guy says.

He says Zimmerman lied about knowing the Stand Your Ground law.

Guy says the case isn’t about stand your ground, but staying in the car.

12:25 p.m.
He asks them to use their common sense that it was the person talking like the defendant that had hate in his heart.

Guy tells them they can use the mannequin in the jury room.

He says it’s a physical impossibility for Zimmerman to get his gun. He says the only way is that Martin was getting off of him or he had backed up so far he couldn’t hit him.

Guy says Zimmerman shot Martin because he wanted to.

He asks why Zimmerman went to get an address when Martin had already run off. He says it was self-serving justification and false.

Guy asks them to listen to Jenna Lauer’s 911 call and listen to when the screaming stops at the instance of the gunshot.

He asks why Zimmerman would stop yelling for help if he was in fear.

He asks if Zimmerman’s voice would’ve been hoarse. HE says it is a common sense case.

“It’s not a case about self-defense, it’s a case of self-denial,” Guy says.

He says common sense tells them Zimmerman would know the name of the street.

Guy says if the defendant was soft, he wouldn’t have been able to get wrist control of Martin.

Guy asks if Martin was still on the hunt, would he have stayed on the phone.

12:19 p.m.
He says if the defendant had only done what he was supposed to, to see and call, none of them would be there.

Zimmerman got out of the car, Guy says, but would’ve stayed in his car and driven to the back gate to wait for the police.

He says Martin may not have the defendant’s blood on his hands, but Zimmerman will forever have Martin’s blood on his hands.

Guy quotes “To the living we owe respect, to the dead we owe the truth.”

He says Martin is entitled to the truth and it didn’t come from Zimmerman.

“What evidence is there the defendant followed Martin after he said OK?”

Guy asks what happened after Zimmerman hung up with Noffke and before Martin’s call with Jeantel disconnected.

He asks the jurors to watch the walk-through again.

He says there was two minutes where Zimmerman didn’t go back to his car.

Guy says four minutes is not the amount of time Martin had to run home, but it was how long he had left on his life.

He says he’s asking them to use their common sense and heart and what they heard and the law in the case.

Guy says the animation starts at the “T” intersection and it’s not fair. He suggests they start at the beginning at the 7-Eleven where Martin had every right to be where he was and do what he was doing in walking home.

He asks if the child had the right to defend himself from a strange man.

_________________
Image Do not go gentle into that good night.
___________ Rage, rage against the dying of the light


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:38 pm
Posts: 4269
MOM looks disgusted, imo. And if so, I agree with him.

_________________
All posts are my own opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of Random Topics. Differences are allowed here. ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:26 am
Posts: 381
Once again that since GZ didn't give aid to TM he is guilty. :60


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:26 am
Posts: 381


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:37 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:33 pm
Posts: 575
chipbennett wrote:
Strangely, I don't remember the State putting on any actual evidence to prove that:

1) It is physically impossible to reach a concealed handgun with someone mounting you, at any position
2) Martin could not have seen Zimmerman's IWB-holstered handgun
3) It is physically impossible for Martin to have run off, then come back to circle Zimmerman's vehicle, then run off again

And the real zinger:

Guy: "This case isn't about Stand Your Ground. It's about not getting out of your car."

Oh, did they charge George with Getting Out of Your Car? I really thought the charge was 2nd degree Murder.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:38 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:26 am
Posts: 381
He obviously doesn't watch CSI. They do sometimes have iffy witnesses.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:39 pm 
Offline
ADMIN
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:30 pm
Posts: 57118
Location: Pomeroy's Wine Bar
chipbennett wrote:
Strangely, I don't remember the State putting on any actual evidence to prove that:

1) It is physically impossible to reach a concealed handgun with someone mounting you, at any position
2) Martin could not have seen Zimmerman's IWB-holstered handgun
3) It is physically impossible for Martin to have run off, then come back to circle Zimmerman's vehicle, then run off again

And the real zinger:

Guy: "This case isn't about Stand Your Ground. It's about not getting out of your car."


This really does sound like he has been reading at Justarse Quest.

Including the fact that he misses the point about actually PROVING a theory as opposed to raising possibilities (Reasonable doubt)

_________________
Image Do not go gentle into that good night.
___________ Rage, rage against the dying of the light


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri May 31, 2013 3:52 pm
Posts: 45
So which side would be happier if the jury comes back with a verdict fast, say 30 minutes or an hour?"


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:26 am
Posts: 381
Who "produced" this trial? What a term to use. Also it should be noted it was the State that "produced" the trial as to place and time, not GZ.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 2620 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110 ... 131  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group