I GOT PERMISSION TO (oops) start a Civil Suit thread from Jeralyn. She will not tolerate any accusations of wrong doing by Crump. She said that she would not risk being held libel for us. She said that she would put the dreaded DeleteHammer on us.

Are there any particular questions that you all would like to raise in the thread? I am willing to do it by proxy if there are some that don't care to register. I don't know that any of the lawyers will weigh in. MJW and NoMatter are both very knowledgeable and I anticipate that they would ring in with opinions.

Thanks Deb..... Thanks to Jeralynn for letting you

I hope boricuafudd see's this.... perhaps he can clarify the stuff about Immunity at a Civil proceeding.

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Thanks Rumpole,
been busy but yes I would like Deb to ask the following.

Could a person who had been charged with a crime of self-defense and was acquitted using the basic self-defense laws and has now been sued in Civil Court, now invoke the Immunity provisions in Florida's statutes in Civil Court, even if he did rely on them for his Criminal Case?

The Civil Court would at that point hold the Immunity Hearing and grant Immunity or not as it would be done in Criminal Court. So far, from my understanding of the law, it only say the "Court" none specific as if this is something that needs to be only in Criminal Court, just a Court of Law.


Edit Rumpole
I moved my reply.. and a post from you
because I was getting off topic

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Daily Daft Posts From Justarse Quest.

The latest LIMPapa vids have caused quite a stir... in his own mid and amongst the half dozen trollops left in the Trayvon zone.

Following the release of his "mannequin videos" they were of course hailed as "marvellous" by the cretins.. copied and quoted endlessly and given "post of the day" smiley accolades.

However, as noted here at CTH, the REAL expert, Knox, whose analysis LIMPapa was attempting to refute, actually responded on twitter and LIMPapa got his ass kicked.... big time.

Now LIMPapa is hiding.. wont actually meet with Knox...... what a coward.

LIMPapa is claiming that his "Real Life" takes precedent over cyber stuff, and yet he has been most vocal in the interference in George's "Real Life", and that of his family and friends. He has used people's real names, addresses and personal details. Seems it is quite OK to maliciously attack George.. to risk his life perhaps, and certainly his liberty...

....but things have gone too far if LIMPapa's privacy is a risk.

And He is the guy the JQ cretins are suggesting as "Expert Witness" at Trial




Quoted posts and discussion of JQ go to...........
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=63&p=24622#p24622

Please stick broadly to the GZ case in this thread



If only Trayvon had kept his hands in his pockets, none of this would have happened.

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I enjoyed Knox's artice comparing his findings as oppossed to Pappa's mannequin and ruler. Will Pappa's hiding out interfere with his/her "expert status"? Will DV have to take over the Forensic Expert job? The Traybots heads must be exploding.
Crump is doing himself in with a little help from West and O'Mara.







Edit Rumpole
I'll copy this to "Introduction" thread to reply

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Daily Daft Posts From Justarse Quest.

NEWSFLASH

Be very afraid. JQ have another cunning plan.......

Code name: "Another Cunning Plan"

This one is HOT... 6 JQ cretins all agree... what could possibly go wrong?



Quoted posts and discussion of JQ go to...........
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=63&p=24770#p24770

Please stick broadly to the GZ case in this thread



If only Trayvon had kept his hands in his pockets, none of this would have happened.

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I ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO A CCP OF MY TWITTER CRAP SINCE I CAN'T DO A SCREEN SHOT AND IT WON'T LET ME!!!!!

This is my little exchange with Seni Tienabeso on Twitter. I told him I thought it was curious how that tape ended up on the ABC website. He said back that it was curious indeed. I then told him that I thought he did it and that it restored my faith in journalistic integrity.

He didn't reply back to tell me he wasn't the one who leaked that video which I found to be even more curious. Of course, there is always the strong possibility that he is still hoping I will go away. I am a BITA to him on occasion.

Everyone keeps saying that the chick from Howard was the assistant to Gutman that Crump was referring to. I always thought it was Seni so I just asked him directly. Seni told me he was there. So we need a total of 6 or 7 people from this pool, right?

Ben Crump**
Natalie Jackson
Matt Gutman**
Seni Tienabeso**
Sybrina Fulton**
Tracy Martin**
Jahvarus Fulton*
Stephen The Cousin
Ronquavis Fulton
Assistant that graduated from Howard U

**Definitely there
* Most likely there

OMD! This thing hates to quote from Twitter. Had to have tried to do this 8-10 times now. I GAVE UP/ rewrote it to make it to where it would post.

Twitter IS a problem Deb... it's the @ and # often... but also unsean stuff I suspect.

I did add the [tweet] facility..... report to my office for training?

I'll see what I can find on your twitter... if I can find it.... or tell me what tweets you want to post?

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I like this one....

More......

Good Grief. You had to like the one where I am swearing. I didn't have a good day yesterday. People sucked the "Charm School" right out of me. And of course you are offline taking a nap so I can't get rid of it. LOL. I did get a retweet on that one.

I've commented about this before and I'm not sure if I'm off base. Over at TCTH, MOM's handling of the case is in question. He's being compared to Crumb in manipulating George to lie about the bond money, as Crumb manipulated DD to lie about the phone call or what was said during the phone call. The implication is MOM is under threat of the state revealing his knowledge in regard to the money, therefore, not defending George wholeheartedly. If that is the case, would it have served MOM better to withdraw as counsel early on and not risk trusting the state would not expose him? Also, what personal gain would MOM get from advising George to lie? Whereas, it's obvious the personal gain Crumb will get from using DD to further his objective.

I hope I expressed myself clearly...

I can see the point that MOM did advise GZ badly with the PayPal money.

BUT you would have to say that at worst, it was a "misdemeanour" offence compared to Crump's "felony"

As you indicate... quite different in seriousness and potential harm.

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Arrgghh... my message went poof! Oh well, wasn't important. Basically just saying I agree that whatever MOM may have done wrong re. the PayPal stuff isn't even in the same league as what Crump and the others have done. And unless there's something specific that MOM is currently doing wrong that should be brought into the sunlight, I don't understand why we should dwell on the other stuff. If it's IMPORTANT that we get something out there, fine. But otherwise, why put George through that?.... it CAN'T be fun for him to read such things.

Hey Deb... you are famous (again)

Dman posted a link to your tweet samples here... it has inspired some discussion at CTH

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 ... ent-342064

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I have said it before. How can something be brought into sunlight if everyone knows about it? All of us have known about this since last June. If it were a true concern, it would have been handled by now.

I have asked before for a link to the Bond Application. I would like to read it myself rather than just hear about it. The only thing I remember being in the evidence is the Jail Intake Form.

Jello, do you have any idea where it is in there? I swear I have gone over all of that stuff at least once, even the 262 FDLE Bio-evidence, which I could barely make heads or tails of...

Deb, I don't recall ever seeing a Bond Application, there was a request for a Bond Hearing, the Indigent Status application was never filed, and none of this would really matter had Judge Lester made a ruling in regards to the PayPal account during the Bond Hearing. He left the matter open, since he was not sure of jurisdiction over it. All that transpire afterward would have been moot if the Judge had said I need all the information on the PayPal account, or the PayPal account is not an asset to be considered for bond status, etc. The Judge knew about the account, the prosecution knew, they let they dropped the issue only to come back to use it against GZ. That is the real issue here. Secondary to that was how MOM handled it, because he could have used the same argument he gave GZ to keep it quiet, that he was going to trial, not working, wife not working for an unknown period of time with an uncertain future, this was their only resource.

I agree with you. I just can't get on board with Sundance on this one. I really don't like the accusations being made. I usually think Sundance has good reasons and backup for his posts, but I'm not to sure on this one. Maybe it's because I like MOM . From what I read and could find on him, he is very well respected. And, exactly, why put George through this. It appears he and his family are confident with MOM. Without being behind the scenes, we don't know yet what MOM's strategy is.