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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:14 pm 
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flgirl543 wrote:
Tracy Martin is shaking his head and making facial smirks. Why is Nelson allowing this?


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I agree, it shouldn't be allowed, but he's been doing that all along.


kbp wrote:
Understandable ...he keeps hearing a 'cha ching' ringing in his ear.


:Gslap :lol

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:16 pm 
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flgirl543 wrote:
Diana Tennis is suggesting the state will move to manslaughter and has a better chance of conviction. lawyers here - opinion please, TY.


Manslaughter does not require evidence of depraved mind, as does 2nd degree murder. However self-defense defeats all homicide charges. Profiling Trayvon as a suspicious unknown individual in a high crime neighborhood was not illegal. Following Trayvon to maintain visual observation (particularly at the request of police dispatcher) was also not illegal. Asking Trayvon what he was doing in the neighborhood was not illegal. There is no evidence that GZ started the physical confrontation. I don't use the word "fight" because there is no evidence of mutual combat. The evidence indicated that GZ endured a protracted beating while screaming for help prior to shooting Trayvon. Even if GZ started the fight, he was still entitled to defend himself pursuant to 776.041. Even if GZ hated blacks, he was still entitled to defend himself when attacked.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:17 pm 
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liesel wrote:
Greg Warmoth of WFTV claims they have "breaking news" they just learned coming up after the break.

http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

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After lunch?

Maybe. I've been afk quite a bit during this recess, so not sure.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:19 pm 
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Lot of Chatter about "The Ice Cream Motion"

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:20 pm 
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flgirl543 wrote:
Diana Tennis is suggesting the state will move to manslaughter and has a better chance of conviction. lawyers here - opinion please, TY.

Since you asked, IMO: If the jury buys self defense, manslaughter is not an option. Manslaughter requires a homicide that is not justified. Also, BDLR went quite a ways trying to prove ill will with Serino, so not sure he's given up yet.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:21 pm 
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Schaefer just said Sybrina will take the stand this afternoon.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:23 pm 
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Explains why she is wearing glasses

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:24 pm 
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So, flgirl543 was correct about suit and hair style.

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Did Serino say there was no proof George continued to follow? I would think if the jury pays attention, they will know Brandi's house is almost near the end of the dog walk and there is no evidence George walked down the path. Of course, Bernie today asked Serino about info that something happened down the dog. Isn't that the house Selena Bahadoor lives in? I believe MOM has the goods on her and her sister.

How hypocritical is it for this lying, conniving BDLR to even hint George is less than truthful.


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Rumpole wrote:
Explains why she is wearing glasses


To hide the non-existent tears she will be wiping.


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liesel wrote:
So, flgirl543 was correct about suit and hair style.


Opps, not me, someone else pointed it out.


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flgirl543 wrote:
I would think if the jury pays attention, they will know Brandi's house is almost near the end of the dog walk and there is no evidence George walked down the path.


The defense has a computer animation. If that comes in, there is no way that the jury will not understand. I don't see any reason it would be excluded if it comports with admitted evidence - such as the map / photos of the area, call timelines, witness testimony and GZ's reenactment video and statements to the cops.


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The argument about the ice cream shot is apparently the picture was taken while the prosecution was waiting to take the professors testimony, i.e., West willfully did not attend, and shouldn't now be heard to complain that the defense wasn't present for the taking of the trial testimony.


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The argument about the ice cream shot is apparently the picture was taken while the prosecution was waiting to take the professors testimony, i.e., West willfully did not attend, and shouldn't now be heard to complain that the defense wasn't present for the taking of the trial testimony.

That would make sense but my understanding of the motion is the state is requesting a judicial inquiry about decorum, essentially. I don't think it mentions the depo.

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so the argument is going to be since West was having ice cream with his girls instead of being at the college professors statement, GZ gives up the right to "confront his accuser" and the right to cross examination?

That's ridiculous (but standard for the prosecution clowns)


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Here is the ice cream motion for anyone who missed it:

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1:33 p.m.
De la Rionda says the next witness will be shown the Hannity interview and asks for instructions to be read to the jury.

1:32 p.m.
The jury is reseated in the courtroom.

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Never underestimate the pettiness of this prosecution team.

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